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I'm still stock too as far as engine mods, although I have gauges.
However, I notice that most, if not all of you 'stockers' are 2001's! Your trucks are awesome and really don't need to be modified before the warranty expires. But try driving my dog Y2K!! I can't even break the tires loose on gravel or even wet pavement!! My '96 gasser 318ci 5 speed RAM towing my 19 foot heavy old Layton Travel Trailer, out pulled my Y2K 3500 Diesel towing the same trailer up the Santa Cruz mountains by at least 20 minutes.
So, sooner or later, but before my warranty expires, I am going to 'BOMB' this sucker and, if it blows up, so be it. I'll park it at the dealership if they don't cover it under warranty and pay storage until I go Bankrupt!! #ad


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Rob in Sacramento
Y2K All Black 3500 ISB 4x4 4:10 LSD,Auto,QC,SLT Laramie, LB, Polished Stull Billet Grill & Fog inserts, Chrome Smitty Built Step Rails, Mopar Chrome-Tipped Mud Flaps, A-Pillar mounted Turbo/Pyro/Trans Temp gauges,21-20-99 & 18-24-99 Computer Re-Flash,Weatherguard 'Weekender' Ladder-rack,Rancho 9000's(the best upgrade I've done so far),Diamond Plated Tool Box, OEM U. R. Bedliner.
I plan to 'BOMB' only after my 100k mile warranty expires Fact:"The First Fords' had 'DODGE' Engines-The Last Fords' NEED THEM!"

 

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My truck is "Reasonably" stock. I added a 30 gallon Transfer flow, because the fuel dealers are really ripping us off for disel. I have ordered guages. It just makes sense to know what is going on. I worked with Westach. They are custom designing the EGT for me. The trans temp and EGT will be alarmed.

So far as the engine, I am totally stock. It moves my 31. 5' 5er anywhere I want to go. Could not be a better road vehicle. Just went from NJ to VA Beach and back, empty unfortunately. Rides like a platform. Was it windy, coulden't tell.

Love this truck. Frequently turn the radio off. The Cummins sounds better.

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PINE SAP!

Mine is stock except, brush guard, running boards, mud flaps, BD brake, 60 Aero Tank.

I did the same thing as you. 3/4 ton with a 9'10" Lance slide in. 2400lbs over the 8800GVW!!! Went with this for several years and did not care for being over weight. Now have 500 miles on a 2001 SLT Dually which will bring me right up to the nats eyebrow of the 11000GVW.

What is the definition of stock? Any thing that does not modify the engine, or drive train?


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2001,3500 QC 4x4, HO/6spd,limited slip,BD brake,60 gal Aero tank.

 

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I have been a Dodge man for years. My first was a 1954 ½ ton and I still have my 1979 D100. The body styling, payload, towing capacity and the Cummins diesel makes this the best truck I ever owned. AS IS!!! The anticipation of hearing the Cummins roar gives me a woody everytime I climb in the cab #ad
I guess that would be called Premature Cummins #ad


I am, and will probably remain stock for a while. However, I think BOMBing is inevitable. I have always made modifications to my trucks. Mostly out of necessity. A good example is the 79. It had that terrible Carter carb. After rebuilding it 3 times, off it went and replaced with an Edelbrock manifold with a Holley four-pumper.

I have seen some good products that I will incorporate in my truck. Items that really do not classify as BOMBing. Horton Fan, MagTech Cover and Pan and Gauges for obvious reasons already mentioned.

Then some small Bombing. My wish list is; Trans upgrade, 4” Exhaust and Brake, Injectors, PE EZ Box… Please somebody stop me. It can be contagious #ad


To date my only Cummins problem was a leaking (very small) Thermostat Housing. Not counting the removal of that D*** oil filter. I use schedule B, no synthetics for me, 10K miles, and 17 MPG without cargo or trailer.

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<font color=forestgreen>2000</font> DODGE <font color=forestgreen>RAM</font>, <font color=forestgreen>2500 HD</font>, 4x4 SLT, Reg. Cab, <font color=forestgreen>Forest Green</font>, Agate interior, Cummins ISB, Auto, Shift-on-the-Fly (241HD), 4. 10 Anti-slip Rear, 4-Wheel Anti-Lock, Trailer Tow Group, Camper Group, Michelin; DC: Fog Lights Kit, Tow Rings, Under rail bedliner, VentVisors, Mud Flaps, & Mats.
<font color=forestgreen>After-market</font>: K40, Viperw/AutoStart, Clarion 6 Disk CD w/remote, UnidenCB w/Francis antenna, Draw-Tite Activator II, Alpex 255TC2C Air Horns, Painless Wiring, HOWES, Liquid Glass #ad

 

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Originally posted by Happy Camper:
What is the definition of stock? Any thing that does not modify the engine, or drive train?

yea... I suppose if were gonna define stocker's it ought to only exclude body or cab related products. Anything tied to any running gear would violate the engineering of the truck... regarding its intended design!

My quest is to find out how many problems are related to BOMB'ing if any... no I don't work for DC. If we find in the next few years that owners dedicated to this test (if there are any) are not having problems, then new potential BOMB'ers might want to consider that as potential data. If we start having problems too, then we'll BOMB the crap out of ours, raise cain and figure it just doesn't matter #ad
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Guages would not constitute bombing and could also help collect specific data.

Gee I feel like a nerd! #ad



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2001. 5, QC, 2500, 2wd, auto, 3. 54, 4 disc, long-bed, all the stuff, heated leather, patriot blue over silver, stock4now!

a real "country cadilac"

 

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Pine sap,

I will probable stay stock also. I would like to keep that initial warantee!!!

Frank

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01 White, Quad Cab,Short Box ,Sport SLT+,5 speed,4X4,line-x ,Nerf bars,fiberglass tonneau cover

 

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RobbyRam - Hey man, if your truck runs as poorly as you say it does, do yourself a favor and take it to the dealership NOW, and start raising cain. Get the thing fixed BEFORE it runs out of warranty.

Then after it does run out of warranty, bomb the crap out of it, and you'll have a better running truck post-bombing than you would've had post-bombing if you'd never had DC straighten' it out.

What's the purpose of a warranty if you don't use it? #ad
You paid for your warranty in the cost of the truck. And it sounds like, in your case, you have plenty of reason to complain, and take advantage of the warranty.

That's my $0. 02 worth.

 

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WELCOME... . i'm with you... !! i plan on keeping my truck stock,i have plenty of power,and the 6sp. is a ball to drive!! i do plan on adding a rambrake when time&money permits. i commute 70-75 miles a day to and from work in D. C. i,m averaging 17. 8-18mpg on the commute. (running about 62mph)i just love this truck!!!... cya around... tom

Originally posted by Pine Sap:
I bought my 2001 based on comparisons with Chevy 3/4 tons, Ford 3/4 tons and Toyota Tundra. I decided to buy DC because as equipped it was very comparable in price (inc the Cummins) plus or minus $1-2k. That is not enough money to worry about on a $31k truck over a 6 year fianance period, so I decided to go for the dependability and economy of diesel. I had no knowledge of this board and I thought a BOMB was a military term until this fall. Since August, I have gone back and forth (yo-yo) based on my reading post on this BBS.

As of right now I have decided to stay totally stock, NO POWER ADD-ON's at all. I am running about 19. 7-21. 4 mpg with appx 8000 mi. I have decided to not use any fuel additives or synthetic oils for the engine. I am spliting the difference between schedule A and B maintenance periods. I am very satisfied with the tire size, power and drive train configuration as is.

I am not having any problems with this truck at all (I LOVE THIS TRUCK), but I don't tow much. I have a small 20' camper (may trade for a 10+' slide-in) and 18' boat. I drive the speed limit + 5mph, I don't accellerate quickly, I use it as a normal 3/4 ton country hauler.

It will be interesting to see if my truck develops some of the problems commonly addressed on this board... in the next 492,000 miles? I will keep you all informed.

QUESTION: Are there any other BORING stock'ers (like me) out there that want to see how it goes and compare notes at this time?

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When I bought my 95 new, I asked the dealer what I could do to the exhaust and not hurt my warranty. The service manager told me, "anything you want, just dont mess with the cat". Well, the new trucks dont have cats, so I would strongly advise killing your muffler! Cooler temps, better mileage and performance... for cheap, and no penalty!

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97 2500 CC 4x4 3. 54 5spd, #12 plate, 4inch open exhaust, 235/85 Michelins, PrimeLoc, Red Tops

 

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WARNING! WARNING! DANGER! DANGER!
Thunderball & Phil, do not, repeat, do not come to Chester, VA to witness the mighty pulling power of MEGARAM. It will only infect you and you'll have to bomb! LOL

Disclaimer: not responsible for non-bombed diesels sucked into MEGARAM's vortex while cruising the interstate!

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'99 Black QC Dually 3500, 3. 54, auto, K&N, VA Box, JRE 4" exhaust with 5" Monster tip, boost & EGT gauges on "A" pillar, silencer ring removed, Cragar Aluminum wheels, mud flaps all around, stainless bed rail guards, Pendaliner bed-liner, custom 12" truck box, Cobra 75WXST model remote CB, ProTorque Converter, Shift Kit, Pressure Lock & Transmission by Frank!

 

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Originally posted by BCFAST:
Well, the new trucks dont have cats, so I would strongly advise killing your muffler! Cooler temps, better mileage and performance... for cheap, and no penalty!

I saw the straight pipe kit in Geno's not sure if that would be a BOMB move or not? I know on my old Harley (1980) FXEF the engine had a real noticable drop in mid range pick-up when I took the 2n1 muffler off and went to straight pipes... ? I suppose the back pressure played some effect in there somewhere.

Could this be said for the Cummins?



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2001. 5, QC, 2500, 2wd, auto, 3. 54, 4 disc, long-bed, all the stuff, heated leather, patriot blue over silver, stock4now!

a real "country cadilac"

 

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Originally posted by Pine Sap:

I saw the straight pipe kit in Geno's not sure if that would be a BOMB move or not? [/QUOTE]

Yes. I would say that is BOMBing #ad

It only took 9 days (your post was 11-29-00) and your thinking
of BOMBing already #ad
"It can be contagious" #ad



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<font color=forestgreen>2000</font> DODGE <font color=forestgreen>RAM</font>, <font color=forestgreen>2500 HD</font>, 4x4 SLT, Reg. Cab, <font color=forestgreen>Forest Green</font>, Agate interior, Cummins ISB, Auto, Shift-on-the-Fly (241HD), 4. 10 Anti-slip Rear, 4-Wheel Anti-Lock, Trailer Tow Group, Camper Group, Michelin; DC: Fog Lights Kit, Tow Rings, Under rail bedliner, VentVisors, Mud Flaps, & Mats.
<font color=forestgreen>After-market</font>: K40, Viperw/AutoStart, Clarion 6 Disk CD w/remote, UnidenCB w/Francis antenna, Draw-Tite Activator II, Alpex 255TC2C Air Horns, Painless Wiring, HOWES, Liquid Glass #ad

 

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Technically speaking, of course, #ad
I think removing your muffler is a bomb. That does have something to do with the drivetrain, because it does alter the performance of the engine somewhat.

Us nerds are going to keep our mufflers on. #ad

 

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Originally posted by BigDaddy:
Yes. I would say that is BOMBing #ad

It only took 9 days (your post was 11-29-00) and your thinking of BOMBing already #ad
"It can be contagious" #ad

Oh yea... what the heck am i thinking.

(let us bow our heads) Lord... help keep us on that straight and narrow path. Do not allow us to go down to destruction with those BOMB'ers. amen

Wide is the gate to detruction #ad
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2001. 5, QC, 2500, 2wd, auto, 3. 54, 4 disc, long-bed, all the stuff, heated leather, patriot blue over silver, stock4now!

a real "country cadilac"

 

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Hey Pine Sap:
I have a 96 3500 that is stock as for as the engine is concerned, but have added a over-drive and an exgaust brake. The Geneo's MEK has been put on but with the muffler gone I don't know what I've accomplished except soother flow. After 4 years time has come for 370 M injectors and fuel plate. [#11] Power is now needed for towing with no decline is speed on mountian roads. I am going for dependable power without crazy speed.
Good luck.
Preston

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96 3500 Black 5 speed turbo diesel, SLT, with US Gear overdrive, Rhino liner, Reese 15,000 lb. fifth wheel hitch, US Gear de-celarator exhaust brake, muffler elimination kit, Amsoil lub. , with other goodys on the way.

 

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MEGARAM

I don't know about Phil, But as for me, I got to see, If chester the place, I'll come for a race, I got to see, If bombing for me, My truck is stock, I think it's hot, So you got to have alot, for me to see. If bombing for me. #ad


All kidding aside I would like to see your truck, Would like to see your gauges in the A" pillar. did you install them ?

Thank's Thunderball

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2001 Ram 2500HD 4x4 Quad Cab, Slt, Auto, Long-bed, 354 Anti-Spin Differential, White Clear Coat / Light Driftwood Satin Glow, Trailer Tow Group, Snow Plow Prep, Camper Special, Brakes Pwr Disc/Drum, Rr Anti-Lock, every thing but leather.

 

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Hey Pine Sap

Unless i miss someone by my count there only 18 stock trucks out there. I guess that makes us a minority. Does this mean i'll have to vote with the democrats? #ad


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2001 Ram 2500HD 4x4 Quad Cab, Slt, Auto, Long-bed, 354 Anti-Spin Differential, White Clear Coat / Light Driftwood Satin Glow, Trailer Tow Group, Snow Plow Prep, Camper Special, Brakes Pwr Disc/Drum, Rr Anti-Lock, every thing but leather.

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Originally posted by Thunderball:
Hey Pine Sap Unless i miss someone by my count there only 18 stock trucks out there. I guess that makes us a minority. Does this mean i'll have to vote with the democrats? #ad

Oh come on now... remember the Repubs are the minority IF we will let the Dems count the peoples votes 4 or 5 more times (HEHEHEHE)

Seriously though... I believe there are more stocker's out there. We have about 6 or 7 DC's running around these part of the sticks (lots of nice RAM gasser's though) and I would venture to say none of them DC owners would know what the word BOMB means.


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2001. 5, QC, 2500, 2wd, auto, 3. 54, 4 disc, long-bed, all the stuff, heated leather, patriot blue over silver, stock4now!

a real "country cadilac"

 

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I'd venture to say that a least 99% of the Cummins Rams on the road are totally stock,they're just not here.

 

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You can add two more stockers to the list. My Brothers and my Dads (Jack in Alaska) are both stock. Although I think Dad my be leaning toward bombing for a bit more power. Mine is not stock as you can see in my signature, the only reason I bombed is that I can. I have always wanted to have a fast truck, and a fast Diesel truck is twice the fun. I have the utmost respect for stockers like you guys.

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01 2500 SLT+ QC LWB 4x4 Auto 3. 54 rear end Forrest Green Sport with all options avail DC Nerf Bars, DC Grill Gard, DC mud flaps, Line-X bed liner, Leer 160XL Topper, Power Edge, EZ Edge, SPA Boost/EGT Gauge on pillar mount, DDT's torque converter - valve body combo and 275 injectors.
4" Exhaust on deck. Air box mods and a new turbo in planning stages.

See My Truck

Dads truck: 98. 5 3500 SLT QC LWB 4x4
Brother Truck: 92 W250 SLT CC LWB 4x4 (Dads old truck)

See 5 Diesels and a Gasser
Winter fun: 2000 Skidoo Summit 700