Texas '03 w/ Twins makes 612hp on #2 only...

[JaMan]

Nick Almagur of Georgetown, Texas has been working thru all the 3rd gen bugs and has built a '03 with twins that dynoed 612hp on #2 only at the Texas Rally in Kerrville, Texas last weekend. The truck is a auto H. O. C. C. 4x4 S. B. and it's one mean critter :--) Looking to be the fastest 3rd gen before long if not now, give us some other reports of the Hp quests out there. Truck makes huge smoke and 75+ psi boost. Look for him in the future.



Jared

 

[Tomeygun]

Nick Almagur of Georgetown, Texas has been working thru all the 3rd gen bugs and has built a '03 with twins that dynoed 612hp on #2 only at the Texas Rally in Kerrville, Texas last weekend. The truck is a auto H. O. C. C. 4x4 S. B. and it's one mean critter :--) Looking to be the fastest 3rd gen before long if not now, give us some other reports of the Hp quests out there. Truck makes huge smoke and 75+ psi boost. Look for him in the future.



Jared

Not that I want to know all the details (really, i do), but what methods did he use?



Injectors w/ 2 boxes?

PDR cam?

modified rail?

 

[JaMan]

Twins ( B1,B2) custom EDM's (early version thats why they are 'Custom") TST and a bully dog downloader, and a fass for fuel, still sucking the rail dry.



Jared





It may be a Big Brother I can't remember...

 

[mattymac]

Twins ( B1,B2) custom EDM's (early version thats why they are 'Custom") TST and a bully dog downloader, and a fass for fuel, still sucking the rail dry.



Jared





It may be a Big Brother I can't remember...

Sounds like Olee's twins. Don M's injectors.



And to Dleno, He said that stacking a programer with a duration box was no good :-laf . Need to thank the D-max guys for that one. Those stacks can make some awesome numbers. Still need to do something with the fuel rail though.

 

[Tomeygun]

Twins ( B1,B2) custom EDM's (early version thats why they are 'Custom") TST and a bully dog downloader, and a fass for fuel, still sucking the rail dry.



Jared





It may be a Big Brother I can't remember...

And here I thought the TST stacked with Bullydog downloader would be a dumb thing to do...



stupid me, That duration pulse must have been REALLY long

 

[JaMan]

Mobile Diesel Performance twins and prototype edms and also a custom program on the Tst box for twins. 81psi boost...

 

[mattymac]

And here I thought the TST stacked with Bullydog downloader would be a dumb thing to do...



stupid me, That duration pulse must have been REALLY long

I have said since day one that a programer with duration and a duration box will make some good power. Its how the D-max guys do it.



I wouldnt be as worried about the pulse width as much as the valve overlap that these CR motors have with that amount of duration.

 

[mattymac]

Marks programer from TST can do some amazing things that no one realizes. I bet he could flow that much fuel PMCR alone. On the program was it just set to not defuel past 40 lbs, or was it a little more custom?



Also what head mods have been done? Studs?

 

[JaMan]

Studs and Fire Ring used water meth in the past and had some o-rings blow so is a litte hesitant to try water just yet but the kit made 100hp on the truck before the tst and edms with just 90hp ex honed and a Bullydog or some other sort of pressure box. Whole different ball game now... .

 

[JWillms]

Truck makes huge smoke and 75+ psi boost. Look for him in the future.



Jared

Anyone have pics of him on the dyno, I was there saterday and thought he was going to dyno then, saw some huge smoke when he was baking it up into that camper spot next to the dyno. SO pics would be great

thank

Justin<><

 

[AggieJustin]

Curtis has some pics of Nick's truck on the dyno over on LSTDR.



Here is a link to the first one, you can click next to get to the others.



Smokin 3rd Gen

 

[crawler]

We need to get that truck up here for the Big Dawg Diesel weekend.



Oct. 23 Dyno

Oct. 24 Drag Racing



http://www.dfwdiesel.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65



Check it out.



Later,

Wes

 

[Patriot Diesel]

Curtis has some pics of Nick's truck on the dyno over on LSTDR.



Here is a link to the first one, you can click next to get to the others.



Smokin 3rd Gen

I remember seeing that truck and talking to Nick at Muncie. That is one nice 3rd gen. !!

 

[Tomeygun]

Marks programer from TST can do some amazing things that no one realizes. I bet he could flow that much fuel PMCR alone. On the program was it just set to not defuel past 40 lbs, or was it a little more custom?



Also what head mods have been done? Studs?

Good point, I remember mark telling me that he could make the injector stay open as long as he wants, it just that not everyone will have the twins to make the power useful



So no matter the method, the duration is longer with both boxes running. . Makes you would what a VanAaken duration box and a tst would do together,



AND what if this TX guy stacked a pressure box too??



Man this is spinning my head, and to think the Chevy guys need drugs to get 781hp... .



Yet this TX guy made 612hp with only programing manipulation (and of course the boost to cool it, and the pump to feed the fuel)

 

[ttreibel]

I am guessing we will see a BOMBed rail this spring and we can take the Dyno back from the 2nd Gen guys :-laf



600+ HP freakin awsume keep the good work up and that is one nice look'n RAM

 

[DLeno]

Sounds like Olee's twins. Don M's injectors.



And to Dleno, He said that stacking a programer with a duration box was no good :-laf . Need to thank the D-max guys for that one. Those stacks can make some awesome numbers. Still need to do something with the fuel rail though.

I didn't say it wouldn't make power. and just because it makes power doesn't mean its necesarily a good idea either. rermember I'm just a voice of caution saying that its risky to stack a duration/timing enhancement with another duration/timing enhacement without understanding what the combination will do. and power isn't the entire measure of success in all cases. how much timing advance is this combination acheiving anyway?



BTW, I also have said you could stack a VA duration box with a TST. same principle, except that the VA doesn't do timing. I'm not sure I want 20 degrees of timing advance on my truck without understanding more about what that will do.



But I'm as curious as the next guy as to what this combo will do . I just prefer to understand them before I commit expensive hardware to the test.

 

[LightmanE300]

Also what kind of egt's is this 600hp truck putting out? Those numbers are nice on a dyno, but what about floored up a grade?

 

[MCummings]

what about floored up a grade?

Don't matter.



This truck won't ever see a trailer, adn if he's floored up a hill, he's going to be doing 120MPH by the top, before he has been in the "dangerous" EGT range for too long.



Merrick

 

[lmills]

Well, I posted an update in the Bully Dog thread, but I will put one in here also. I stacked the Pup with the TST. I am not very impressed yet. Something is not working together right. It runs awesome with the Pup on the extreme setting and the TST up to 3-3, but anything over that and it seems like it is running out of fuel. The motor starts popping like it is losing rail pressure and smoke clears up. I can tell you this much. The Pup with the Killer B works very nice. Boost pressure is about 38-39 WOT and EGT's didn't go over 1200* at WOT

 

[MCummings]

anything over that and it seems like it is running out of fuel. The motor starts popping like it is losing rail pressure and smoke clears up.

That's exactly what is happening with Nick.



You are not technicly "emptying" the rail, but you are loosing enough pressure as to not get the fuel in at the right time.



Piers is supposed to be working on a solution...





Merrick