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I never had to post, just searched for a while, read, cross-referenced my manual, and figured out my alternator charging problem. Thought I'd post now, so someone's future search might benefit.



My alternator blew, took my serpentine belt too, last wednesday. Swapped the alternator with a new one. No joy. Took it, and the core, down to Napa, had them check, and sure enough, the new one was good, the old one tried to throw their test machine belt when they hit it with a load!



Tested the field at the alternator, no 12v. Traced fusable links, especially the two red wires that go to white on the driver's fenderwell. Swapped the a/c relay with the auto-start relay (plug is the same, number is the same). Continuity checked wires between the auto-start relay to the field on the alternator. Nothing. Jumped the field with the 12v at the auto start, now I am charging. So, I'm suspecting the PCM (engine controller in mine, a 5spd). Dumping code 41 too. And it controlls the other side of the field at the alternator (basically, an integrated regulator in 1992 and 1993 pickups). I was about to override it with an older regulator like mentioned here, when I noticed the engine-speed sensors in the search results, looked behind the crank pully, followed the wires up by #1, and the plug was undone! Guessing the belt nailed it? Wasn't working near there, but ya never know.



So, plug it in, still does not work. Swap the relay again, now it works - bad relay, bad alternator, plug for the crank sensor loose, and the belt went. To top it all, my voltmeter was sticking at 12v, so when revving after I finally did get the system working, it didn't show a working alternator when it was working. I noticed the hood light go dimmer when I turned the truck off with the manual fuel shut, and got the other gauge. Cripes.



Hope this helps someone else fighting battles that should take 30 minutes instead of a day! thanks tdr, jon. (sure takes away from my conversion project time, sigh).
 
Taking into account just how MUCH I suck at electrical things... you STILL get 10 RWHP bonus for that one Nordby... . GOOD ON YA BUD !!!!!



Hey, put a copy of this in the "tips" thread... . it's gonna be a winner...



pb.....
 
First - anyone have either an auto-start relay (known as the ASD, even referred to as the auto-shutdown relay at times) or the ac control relay in a 91. 5-93 hulk laying around? This would be the relay closest to the radiator of the three on the front left fender. Held on by a 3/8" head sheet screw. The A/C control relay would work too, the one closest to the firewall on the same fender Napa wants $64 for it, and really doesn't know if it is the right one so getting it from the warehouse, etc, is not worth it.



I can't take credit for much of this - it's an aggregation of what others have learned - trying to put it into one thread. And the sheer amount of $$$'s this would cost ($300 or so plus parts, maybe more if they swapped the wrong thing) gave me a lot of "don't quit" when considering the truck is worth $4K tops!



Oh for the days of pulling the battery cable off, truck quits, and you know it is your alternator/regulator.



thanks,jon
 
Meant to post the part # for the reasonably priced relay.



Borg Warner part #R4126. This works for the auto-start relay and the a/c control relay. $14 from Pep Boys, among others I am sure.



pastor bob, you mean copy (a collapsed version of course) into the best tips and tricks for a first gen owner? Or somewhere else? I'll put it wherever the search will pick it up. And try to give an easier step by step for someone without the shop manual handy.



thanks,jon
 
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