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[Matt400]

You have to learn to balance the right foot with the turbo.

For true Hot Rodders that sort of thing can be an expected trade off to OEM operation. I like to keep both OEM drivabilty while also making improvements if at all possible otherwise I won't like driving it.

I find that my sps66 tends to be slower than stock to 10lbs,

the truck doesn't seem to be touchy at part throttle. My boost only shoots to 45lb+ if my right foot has made the request. Otherwise (unloaded at least can't say about towing), the application of power is just as predictable as stock.

Don't know when/if I will change my turbo but learning from all you guys out there experiencing the changes in drivability they make sure keeps my interest.

 

[BradyWilliams]

RE: Thanks to you all!

We spent a lot of time testing and fine tuning this Super Phat Shaft 64. It sure is a nice feeling when we help some one and make good products as well. Thanks for your patience, we put in so much time to find the right combination. It's always nice to hear good things.

 

[rivercat]

Hrmm, maybe he means from 10-45 psi, seems a few have posted how fast. . as in "a blink of an eye" that happens with these II chargers. If you were not use to it, it sounds like it might make for not so smooth part throttle drivability.

The 0-10 psi is what I would be concerned to mess with in pulling off my stock charger, its plenty slow as it is, so surely he couldn't have been talking about getting it spun up.

Its true the the stock charger provides 10 soon but it doesn't seem to flow whats needed and only slowly ramps up to full spool after 2200 or so with hevy petal. I am being real easy on my new 62 and it seems to hit 10 around 1700 and then with just a little petal 1/3 it lights in an eye blink up into the 30s, even with the light throttle you can feel the truck jump when it lights. Keep in mind that I am not running My catcher and 1/3 petal in not alot of fuel. Can't wait to get my catcher back to see how it lights with it.

 

[turboost]

When cruising down the road at 1400rpm and using part throttle accerlation to try and ease by someone and the thing wants to spool up to 40psi everytime you give it throttle, I say it spools to easy for my taste.

 

[Luke Warmwater]

LOL not calling you a liar but 1400 and part throttle trying to "ease" by someone does not seem like enough fuel to get 40psi. Mine hardly touchs 40psi with pedal to the metal 5x5 blasts. I can 1400 and part throttle "ease" by people all day and never do more than 15-20psi. If I start "easing" by and go ahead and lay into it, yeah it will go straight to 38-40 very quick(which I like) but then that "easing" past part just went out the window and I'm right on down the road to scaring the bejesus out of the passee lol. What other turbos are comparing to and how much fuel do you have?

 

[turboost]

When trying to ease by people at 1/4 throttle its pulling about 10-15lbs at 700*. If I go to 1/2 throttle its shoots up to 30-33lbs. I have the wastegate set to 40lbs but it creeps up to 45lbs if I stay in it. I think the key is the EGTs. If the temp is not 650* or more it will have lag.



I have 370s, 100 plate, AFE intake, Goerend single disk and vb, 17* timing, 4in exhaust, and it has been touched by Jim Fulmer a time or two.

 

[Jim Fulmer]

When trying to ease by people at 1/4 throttle its pulling about 10-15lbs at 700*. If I go to 1/2 throttle its shoots up to 30-33lbs. I have the wastegate set to 40lbs but it creeps up to 45lbs if I stay in it. I think the key is the EGTs. If the temp is not 650* or more it will have lag.



I have 370s, 100 plate, AFE intake, Goerend single disk and vb, 17* timing, 4in exhaust, and it has been touched by Jim Fulmer a time or two.

This is normal for a 12V and the way that one is setup to fuel, it's in the middle of the road, I can fuel harder or softer... ... it's all in the AFC!



The next time we hook up I'll make a quick change to fuel a little softer and that should cure your instant boost issue..... I'll set it up more like mine.



Jim

 

[KennyM]

Just thought I would give some input on II's sps62. This turbo has replaced my almost worn out stock 35 16cm2.



First off I can not believe how soon this turbo spools. It has actually made my truck more driveable in traffic. The light haze I used to have when leaving a red light and shifting up through the gears is gone. I'm talking about the haze you see when someone is driving behind you at night.



EGT's Don't care never did.



WOT runs. Tire (open diff) now breaks loose in 4th gear on any pavement. My many lanes worth of black out smoke has been cut down to a heavy haze. I would also say a 1/4 to 1/3 poke of the throttle will net an almost instant shot to 40PSI.



I will dyno this turbo before I install my #4 plate. I'm curious how much it had added since my 450/1000. SOP tells me more than 50hp.

 

[Jim Fulmer]

Kenny, I'm curious about the EGT drop in your setup! I set a 215 truck up like yours and it was at 446 hp then added water/meth to push it to 496 with a stock 35/18. 5.



Jim

 

[KennyM]

Jim,



I will get you the info in a few days. It's raining now and for the next few days. Actually as of now I have not looked at the EGT's yet. I know with my old turbo into 1400 (pegged) was simple.



Ken

 

[KennyM]

Jim,



As of now the max I have seen is about 1300. This was with 40degree air temp. I also have plans to dyno this in the next few weeks.

 

[Jim Fulmer]

The dyno numbers will tell allot as the EGT's only say... ... . I need fuel!



Jim

 

[BradyWilliams]

RE:Super Phat Shaft 64

We have had a lot of people lately ask why don't you talk about your Super Phat Shaft 64, all we hear about is either your Super Phat Shaft 66 or your Phat Shaft 62. So I will try to help in this regard and say some things about our 64. The Super Phat Shaft 64 will drop exhaust temps. as much as 300deg. depending of course on overall fuel delivery and other mods that has been done to the truck like BIG Intakes or exhaust. We have also tested dyno numbers to run as high as 625-650hp. But continuous (useable) hp will be less. The spool up of this turbo is very quick for a turbo of this size and mass. The spool up is relative to how you are testing for spool up. So if you would like to give me your test parameters, we will test accordingly and give you the results. We have tested more turbos and variation to come to this combination than any turbo we have todate. We Know that this turbo is clean of compressor surge and that is the reason we kept testing so that we could introduce a big single that would perform to all the expectations of all the second gen truck owners that have been waiting for a great single. The performance is very similar to our Super Phat Shaft 66 as for hp. (slightly lower but still good). And yes we have not pushed this turbo as hard as we should be. It is every thing as advertised and should be a big hit. Thanks, Brady 1-800-955-0476

 

[KKlingbeil]

well i have a PS 62/14 and with jammer 4s and the comp box off, i can get to 20psi under 1500 rpms. It drives as close to stock as possible. It wont smoke but only a little bit with the box off, but you turn that on, and yeah i can blow a cloud if i want. Overall i REALLY like this turbo...

 

[Jim Fulmer]

When trying to ease by people at 1/4 throttle its pulling about 10-15lbs at 700*. If I go to 1/2 throttle its shoots up to 30-33lbs. I have the wastegate set to 40lbs but it creeps up to 45lbs if I stay in it. I think the key is the EGTs. If the temp is not 650* or more it will have lag.



I have 370s, 100 plate, AFE intake, Goerend single disk and vb, 17* timing, 4in exhaust, and it has been touched by Jim Fulmer a time or two.

This truck is getting a 215 pump that was just checked and tweaked for the customer by Industrial Injection. Once we install it I'll be able to do some tuning on it... ... . report to follow.



Jim

 

[Jim Fulmer]

This truck is getting a 215 pump that was just checked and tweaked for the customer by Industrial Injection. Once we install it I'll be able to do some tuning on it... ... . report to follow.



Jim

The report is that he brought the pump down last weekend and installed it with a little assistance. As you can see he had a 180 pump with a custom plate, 3k's, 370's and the 64/14. Power was good as was boost and EGT's but all of that has changed.



Now boost is 47 after allot of wastegate adjustment (open) EGT's are plasma torch area and power is huge... ... yes it impressed me allot. It needs the head O-ringed, more boost and water/meth then it will haul butt with the best of them!



At max boost and EGT the road is gone in smoke. The only thing to change now is to put the 215 AFC spring back in so it's not so violent..... it spools like yesterday.



Jim