The perfect lift pump?

[Tomeygun]

how many threads do you see about people having trouble with the GDP kit? I'll answer that one for you. NONE.

I have ALL KINDS of trouble with my GDP kit... ... ... ... ...

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Trouble hearing it, Trouble getting it to break, Trouble convincing people that little silver tube IS the actual pump, Trouble wiping the stupid grin off my face when I open the filler door and hear the fuel sloshing back in

 

[Luken]

I have ALL KINDS of trouble with my GDP kit... ... ... ... ...

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Trouble hearing it, Trouble getting it to break, Trouble convincing people that little silver tube IS the actual pump, Trouble wiping the stupid grin off my face when I open the filler door and hear the fuel sloshing back in

You had me worried for a minute Tomey.

 

[rbattelle]

I could dig up probably 25 posts in the last 4 weeks with bad things about the FASS. Whether its the noise, leaking, failing. It doesn't matter what the problem is. But I won't bore you with the same things we read about week in and week out.

No no, I think you missed my point! My point is that in the old days FASS was "the perfect solution" with a perfect operational record and great customer service and the final solution to the LP problem.



Now, fast forward a few years, and people are speaking about GDP with the same glowing reviews and happiness that they once posted about FASS.



The question is: is GDP finally the solution, or in 3 years will everyone be posting all their GDP failures and switching to whatever new fuel system is in style?



I was only making an observation, and I don't mean to offend either FASS owners or GDP owners. Just a harmless, innocent observation. I guess I just wanted to remind everyone that we've seen the "perfect solution" before, and time and time again it's turned out to be not-so-perfect down the road a few years.



Ryan

 

[Luken]

I understand what you mean Ryan. No offense taken at all

 

[RMalone]

I think there must be several clones of Richard Martin. I talked to the guy twice today about a filter install, he answered by the third ring both times and was happy (or damn good at faking it) to help me. The GDP kits may not be perfect, Rich might not be either but I still haven't found the flaw in either one.



Just an FYI Rich told me he plans on haveing bolt on ladder bars available by the end of the month.

 

[Tomeygun]

Just an FYI Rich told me he plans on haveing bolt on ladder bars available by the end of the month.

Dont tease me... cause I dont weld and dont plan on buying a welder to learn... so I'm ALL about the bolt on!!

 

[AMassaro]

The Walbro setups for our trucks may be the "new fad"... but you gotta remember that Walbro(the pump) has been around for a VERY long time. From the very quick Buick Turbo's to the very fast Mustangs to the very bad LS1's, they've been pumping away for along time doing double duty on the street and strip.

 

[p-Bar]

The RASP looks bulletproof to me, it'll grind up anything plus you have your existing lift pump as a backup. My second choice would be a FASS if it had a brushless motor on it.

 

[Luken]

Just an FYI Rich told me he plans on haveing bolt on ladder bars available by the end of the month.

I can't wait... You can bet they will be top notch.

 

[Froadin]

While you are putting the flat bad on it, make a trap door above the fuel tank's module so you can easily pull it out later.

Heck, I almost chopped a section out of my stock bed when I had it off to make a trap door! Still tempted/thinking about it actually.



As for LPs, why hasn't anyone used a real pulse width modulation setup that will keep a constant pressure? You can even have a throttle switch to activate a higher pressure (great for 3rd gens).

I almost built a setup like this, but my supplier flaked out (was going to be getting pumps made in china). So I kinda bailed on that project for now.

I still think it's a great idea though.

 

[LowFly]

I have been biting my lip here. BUT I will say this:



Everyone is so eager to point out issues with the FASS. Great! It’s my job to handle them. AND i do to best of my abilities. BUT remember, people come on to these forums to ask questions about problems they are having in most cases. Yes you do see a good plug now and then, but you mainly see issues and questions. ALSO the people on the forums are a VERY small sample of the actual population. (BUT I would have to admit a very well informed bunch) We have about 15,000 pumps on the market right now. In that amt you are bound to see some issues. AND I can say that a fair amt of problems are customer induced (Improper install, faulty pick up, gauge issue, etc. ). And some are on us. This is why i am here to help get these units working 100%.



We feel we can co-exist with the Walbro Pump Kits and wish Rich and whoever else the best. This market is big and don’t mind some healthy competition. We are constantly trying to improve our product to be one of the best on the market. We are going through some growing pains right now... and its bitter sweet. BUT we are doing our very best here. I’ve said my 2…….

 

[RMalone]

Diesel-Dan a very fair, honest post. I appreciate vendors like that and I hope you and Glacier duke it out on quality, utility and customer service. All of us looking for top-end quality (and willing to pay for it) will benefit.

 

[nickleinonen]

As for LPs, why hasn't anyone used a real pulse width modulation setup that will keep a constant pressure? You can even have a throttle switch to activate a higher pressure (great for 3rd gens).

rbattelle had a pwm on an aeromotive pump... pump failed i believe. .



i plan on using a bypass boost referenced regulator. . run it a solid 10psi under no boost, and let it build to ~20-25 psi under load [use an orifi to drop the 1:1 rise ratio and a popoff to limit it to my final pressure]

 

[rbattelle]

rbattelle had a pwm on an aeromotive pump... pump failed i believe. .

True. Pump failed, but not because of the PWM. It failed because the pump-to-motor seal wasn't compatible with biodiesel. Result = fire hazard.



Remember the first commandment of pumps:

Thou shalt size thy pump to the task at hand.



Do that, and you're half way there.



Ryan