Think of allthe money you could save as an Illegal alien

[daytripper63]

I stumbled upon this on another forum...



Beat the Crowd to become Illegal

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>

>Becoming Illegal (From a Maryland resident to his senator)

> The Honorable Paul S. Sarbanes

> Senate Office Building

> 309 Hart

> Washington DC, 20510

>

> Dear Senator Sarbanes,

>

> As a native Marylander and excellent customer of the Internal

>Revenue Service, I am writing to ask for your assistance. I have contacted

>the Department of Homeland Security in an effort to determine the

>process for becoming an illegal alien and they referred me to you.

>

>My primary reason for wishing to change my status from U. S. Citizen

>to illegal alien stems from the bill which was recently passed by

>the Senate and for which you voted. If my understanding of this bill's

>provisions is accurate, as an illegal alien who has been in the United

>States for five years, all I need to do to become a citizen is to pay a

>$2,000 fine and income taxes for three of the last five years. I know a

>good deal when I see one and I am anxious to get the process started before

>everyone figures it out.

>

> Simply put, those of us who have been here legally have had to pay

>taxes

>every year so I'm excited about the prospect of avoiding two years of taxes

>in return for paying a $2,000 fine. Is there any way that I can apply to be

>illegal retroactively? This would yield an excellent result for me and my

>family because we paid heavy taxes in 2004 and 2005.

>

> Additionally, as an illegal alien I could begin using the

>local emergency room as my primary health care provider. Once I have

>stopped paying premiums for medical insurance, my accountant figures I

>could save almost $10,000 a year. Another benefit in gaining illegal status

>would be that my daughter would receive preferential treatment relative to

>her law school applications, as well as "in-state" tuition rates for many

>colleges throughout the United States for my son.

>

> Lastly, I understand that illegal status would relieve me of the

>burden of renewing my driver's license and making those burdensome car

>insurance premiums. This is very important to me given that I still have

>college age children driving my car.

>

> If you would provide me with an outline of the p rocess to become

>illegal(retroactively if possible) and copies of the necessary forms, I

>would be most appreciative. Thank you for your assistance.

>

> Your Loyal Constituent,

>

> Pete McGlaughlin

>

>

> Get your Forms (NOW)!! Call your Internal Revenue Service

>1-800-289-1040. Please pass this onto your friends so they can save on this

>great offer!!!!

 

[CSnyder]

Is that number valid? I may have to call and arrange for ilegal status because I had to pay in 7386. 00 for taxes this year alone.

 

[bighammer]

I might get flamed here, but I'm proud to be an American, and although I don't always agree with how the money is spent, I will continue to pay my taxes.

It's a cute letter, but I'm sure there are some downsides of "illegal alien" status that he's overlooking.

 

[daytripper63]

I might get flamed here, but I'm proud to be an American, and although I don't always agree with how the money is spent, I will continue to pay my taxes.



It's a cute letter, but I'm sure there are some downsides of "illegal alien" status that he's overlooking.

I posted this to show everyone what type of *&#%^&*#%$ politicians we have and if they are in your area I would trust you to not re-elect them

 

[Dieselnut59]

Crooked politicians won't support it, but if we had the FairTax (national retail sales tax), it would make illegals finally pay their fair share. If we can lower the incentives for people to come here illegally by making them pay what WE have to pay, less will come. Make them pay their share. Legal or illegal, everyone has got to buy goods and services at some time. It is about time the "free ride" stops and this is getting more and more promising as even Democrats are finally starting to get on board. www.fairtax.org

"Securing the borders" is not the best answer (although it is part of the solution). We need to stop giving a free ride to people who enter our country illegally. If part of the incentive is cut off when they have to start paying taxes likr the rest of us, there will be less of a "draw" to come here. The "anchor baby" thing has definately got to stop too. This was not mentioned, but it is a BS loophole in the law that needs to be closed and stopped.

If these people want to be citizens, TREAT them like citizens and make them PAY THEIR OWN DAMN WAY!

 

[rbattelle]

Yes! Go Fairtax!!!



Ryan

 

[bighammer]

I need to read more, but the FairTax thing sounds like it could make things fair. The curent system is a total mess.

 

[rbattelle]

I need to read more, but the FairTax thing sounds like it could make things fair.

For a long time I've believed the current system is so hated not necessarily for the amount of money they take, but more importantly because it simply isn't fair.



Even keeping the same tax system, if they simply made it more fair people would be a lot happier.



For example, if I owe the IRS money and don't pay on time, the debt is collectible by them up to 10 years later, and they owe me NO penalties or interest.



On the other hand, if the IRS owes me money, they pay me no interest or penalties, and I only have 3 years to collect from them.



Not fair. And that's just one part.



Ryan

 

[PToombs]

Not to mention that somebody like Bill Gates pays as much in taxes as I do!

 

[daytripper63]

Not to mention that somebody like Bill Gates pays as much in taxes as I do!

That has got to be one of the biggest myths, I would highly recommend doing a bit more research on this one. If you earn a large amount of money you can put LIMITED amounts pretax dollars in certain retirement etc accounts, but it is nothing that you cant also do yourself. The catch is if you dont earn enough you probably dont have the extra income to take advantage of this.

P. S. I guarantee if Bill Gates is drawing a paycheck then he is definetely paying more than you in tax



But on that note I would give almost anything to change to a flat tax

 

[RustyJC]

A consumption-based tax would benefit the rich more than the poor since it is based on what one spends, not what one earns. Proportionately, the poor (and middle class as well) spend much more of what they earn on food, housing, utilities, etc. than do the rich, so they would still be paying proportionately more of their income in taxes.



A consumption-based tax would also take a toll on our economy as it motivates people not to spend (not that saving is a bad thing. ) To illustrate, if I can buy a used vehicle (let's say one that is less than 1 year old with fewer than 10,000 miles) and pay no tax as opposed to paying 15%, 20% or more tax on a new one, guess which one I'm going to purchase? What does that do to the market for new vehicles?



Personally, at my stage in life, I'd probably come out quite a bit ahead with such a tax, but I still think it needs some thought and discussion before it is implemented.



Rusty

 

[Dieselnut59]

A consumption-based tax would benefit the rich more than the poor since it is based on what one spends, not what one earns. Proportionately, the poor (and middle class as well) spend much more of what they earn on food, housing, utilities, etc. than do the rich, so they would still be paying proportionately more of their income in taxes.



A consumption-based tax would also take a toll on our economy as it motivates people not to spend (not that saving is a bad thing. ) To illustrate, if I can buy a used vehicle (let's say one that is less than 1 year old with fewer than 10,000 miles) and pay no tax as opposed to paying 15%, 20% or more tax on a new one, guess which one I'm going to purchase? What does that do to the market for new vehicles?



Personally, at my stage in life, I'd probably come out quite a bit ahead with such a tax, but I still think it needs some thought and discussion before it is implemented.



Rusty

The basic necessities of life are not taxed under the FairTax plan. The "poor", "Underpriveledged", and just plain LAZY will still not have to pay taxes because spending up to the poverty level is tax free. It is refunded in a "prebate" to cover the taxes on the basic necessities.

As for people buying used vehicles, etc, whats so different about that than now? You can buy a used vehicle fom an individual tax-free now. I have had my share of used vehicles. I will always personally buy new becuase I am anal about good service. If there is a higher demand for used vehicles, that also means there will be a higher demand for new vehicles, as the used ones are sold. Someone has to buy the new ones so thay can become used for a year as you mention. PLUS, the FairTax gets rid of ALL imbedded taxes in the manufacturing process of the vehicle so the price of the vehicle is about the same as it is under the current system. Buy a used truck at a dealer-It is taxed now (which is double taxation). Under the FairTax, only NEW goods are taxed and ONE TIME only. Remember, if the demand for used goes up, the demand for new will too because someone has to convert new to used!



A plan that encourages businesses to remain or locate to the USA is good. A plan that therefore stimulates our economy is good. A plan that keeps the "poor" untaxed is good (in most people's view anyway). A plan that taxes the "underground" economy (illegals, drug dealers, prostitutes, etc) is good.

Take the whole plan in its entirity, not just certian aspects of it. It must be kept as written to be FAIR. I have done a LOT of studying of this plan and am a daily listener to Neal Boortz's show. He frequently has callers call in and dispute him on the FairTax plan. His rebuttals are well stated and sincere. There are no real downsides to the plan as it is written and MANY positive aspects.

www.fairtax.org

www.fairtaxgroups.com

www.boortz.com

1-800-FAIR-TAX

 

[PToombs]

You wouldn't like NY. The state gets the tax every time a vehicle is sold! If a car is sold 6 times, each new owner pays tax on the (alleged) amount they paid. It sucks here!

 

[RustyJC]

As for people buying used vehicles, etc, whats so different about that than now? You can buy a used vehicle fom an individual tax-free now.

Not in Texas. You pay the sales tax when you transfer the title.



Rusty

 

[rbattelle]

Fairtax would make the United States the single largest tax-sheltered economy on Earth. Every business in the universe would flock to our shores. I think that would be good for us.



It's strange (and unfair, I think) the way some goods must be taxed when they're sold, no matter how many times they're sold. Every time a car changes hands, sales tax is paid. I bought an industrial machine last year - and paid sales tax on it. Yet I've never been charged tax at a garage sale, no matter the value of the goods. Why?



Theoretically, if a vehicle is sold often enough, the amount paid in taxes could exceed the cost of the vehicle new. Something isn't quite "right" about that.



As I said before - my biggest problem with the tax code is iniquity. Although I support Fairtax, I agree that even a flat tax would be far preferable to what we have now.



I've always believed, however, that simple ignorance will always trump the Fairtax. In order to oppose it, all you have to do is make 2 simple (and totally wrong) arguments:



1. Tell the people they will no longer be able to make any tax deductions on anything.

2. Tell the people the government wants to add a 23% tax to everything they buy.



Instantly, 99. 9% of the populace will oppose the Fairtax and any candidate bold enough to run on it. This despite both arguments being totally misleading.



Alas.



Ryan