this G56 / NV5600 crap is getting old

[dhill]

New rules for transmission threads: You can only respond if you actually own the transmission discussed in the thread. :-{}

hahahahahahahah That's funny



Do they make an exhaust brake for the power windows?



Dave

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

FORD group rules:



Our trucks are PERFECT, no whining posts allowed!





GM group rules:



Not only are our TRUCKS perfect, but so is GM - anyone disagreeing will be BANNED!





DC group rules:



Currently under revision - and it don't look good...

 

[67guzzler]

I have just under 3000mi on my G56. I bought it from Tommygun, drove 1000 miles home the first day with no problems. 12 hrs later it was hooked up to my 10,000lb enclosed construction trailer and has not been removed since. I drive 50 miles a day in New Jersey stop and go traffic (city driving, stoplight every 1/2 mile or so , no highway driving). So I shift through the gears at least 75-100 times a day. I have had no problems yet. I think the clunking everyone is hearing is the Dual mass flywheel doing its job. It is a 2 peice flywheel connected together by compression springs. When power is put on it, the springs compress and slowly return to position as the drivetrain catches up to the engine speed. If you let off the throttle when the springs are fully compressed, the flywheel slams back to original position(CLUNK). This also happens when you row through the gears very fast and the springs have no time to return to normal with a load on them. You get a clunk or bang through each gear when pressing in the clutch. If you put the trans in 2nd or 3rd and drive in a parking lot, give it a little go pedal and then let off fast, (CLUNK) its the dual mass thingy doing its job.

Sometimes you gotta stop and think OUTSIDE the box.

Just an honest worken' man's opinion

What a great post. If this is the case then there's hope for people like me who 1) can't stand the clunk 2) need to have an honest understanding of what's going on with their truck to deal with it and 3) can hope for an aftermarket clutch/flywheel combo that won't do this sometime down the road.

FORD group rules:



Our trucks are PERFECT, no whining posts allowed!





GM group rules:



Not only are our TRUCKS perfect, but so is GM - anyone disagreeing will be BANNED!





DC group rules:



Currently under revision - and it don't look good...

Gary -- You're a nut. #ad

 

[MGlines]

This is getting good,I'm gonna go make more popcorn!

 

[Yo Hoot]

Time for this thread to shift gears

 

[msperos]

Hey, we should just ignore Gary and his posts, this is what he lives for jump in stir the pot and then jump out. Anybody been around long enough to remember the Walmart thread

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

Hey, we should just ignore Gary and his posts, this is what he lives for jump in stir the pot and then jump out. Anybody been around long enough to remember the Walmart thread

YUP, *I* have been around long enough to remember it - and it was EXACTLY the sort of shift AWAY from basic thread issues, and stooping to PERSONAL references that got THAT totally off track - is that what you are trying to do HERE as well?



The VAST majority of my activities here are ISSUE related, and usually in an attempt to provide humor and helpful info - not to raise hell and anger others by use of PERSONAL BS- what is the purpose of YOUR post?



Moderators?

 

[TowRig]

I laugh at all this G-56 trashing anyway. I bet half the haters have automatics. If I really wanted to talk trash, I'd even question the manhood of someone who'd own a Diesel truck with an automatic transmission. That said, I keep such comments to myself as they serve no useful purpose.

Just playing the Devil's advocate here, some would even question the manhood of someone who'd own a Diesel truck with a short bed and single rear wheel. Just meaning that everyone has different needs, who could have knew.

That said, I keep such comments to myself as they serve no useful purpose.

I must have woke up in some kind of weird parallel universe today as the other Tim would have never kept such comments to himself. :-laf

 

[hasselbach]

Just playing the Devil's advocate here, some would even question the manhood of someone who'd own a Diesel truck with a short bed and single rear wheel. Just meaning that everyone has different needs, who could have knew.







I must have woke up in some kind of weird parallel universe today as the other Tim would have never kept such comments to himself. :-laf

Heck, Tim keep to himself? Are we in the twilight zone or something? Maybe his book of insulting comments has been misplaced...

 

[fkovalski]

Back to the topic...



After reading the posts... I am not so sure as I in fact have the G56 as originally thought. I previously had the 5 speed and do not know the shift pattern on the NV5600. Waht is the shift pattern of it and is it different from the new one? This sounds like a definitive way of identifying the two. Can any verify and confrim this?



EDIT: Also- is there a specific option code identifying which is which?

 

[msperos]

I just pm'd Gary to apologize for dredging up the Walmart post. For those that don't know it. I will let it lie. Gary has been an outstanding source of great posts in the 2nd gen arena and many of us have learned allot from his post's. I ask the people with out the G56 to understand the investment we have made in these truck( both financially and emotionally) I truly loved my 2nd gen but as a tool it no longer fit the bill. I traded my truck for this, please wait until the facts are in on these trannys. Will there be issues? probably but until they happen lets not sit back and surmise what they will be.

 

[AndyMan]

Heck, Tim keep to himself? Are we in the twilight zone or something? Maybe his book of insulting comments has been misplaced...

Now THAT is funny!!! :-laf

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

Mark was kind enough to respond to my last post up above, being the gentleman that he is - there is NO problem between us, or, as far as *I* am concerned, between me and any others in this thread.



Because my response to his private message to me related directly to the ISSUES in this thread, and MY activity here and in other threads, I repeat it below:



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Mark, if you read carefully thru ALL my posts in that G56 thread, you will quickly note that NONE of my comments were attacks on the G56, other than a clear attempt at defusing growing hostilities with a bit of humor towards the bottom. I am fully aware that there are no known total failures of that transmission at this point, only a scattering of grunts and squeeks that may be harmless, or possibly develop into more serious problems down the road - I think it wise to be kept aware of issues as they might occur, but mostly, give the transmission a chance and hope it works out well.



But CENSORSHIP of G56 issues is NOT in anyones best interest, any more than earlier VP-44 issues would have been!



The main point of my comments there are in OPPOSITION to attempted squelching of negative info or comments that some pop in with as more and more of the G56's hit the streets. My view with the G56 is the exact same as similar info with the VP-44 and DC automatic trannies, where even the BAD comments helped us all by creating amatuer and proffesional fixes that then benefit us all - and WHY would we try to eliminate that ultimately BENEFICIAL activity just because a FEW thin-skinned owners react poorly to negative info and choose to take it personally?



Mark, I'm a retired old coot, with more spare time on my hands than most on TDR - I have a VERY strong interest in these trucks, and all info, good OR bad related to various issues. I'm not here to simply raise Hell and irritate folks - I *do* have a strong sense of humor, and probably give too many guys a bad time in FUN, and they then react poorly assuming I am serious - that's largely a downside of the written word, where "tone of voice" and facial expression are lost.



My comments to Tim, were largely in fun, and related to the fact that the very criticism and complaint HE was opposed to in the G56 thread, were reversals of HIS OWN position and comments from an earlier date and experience of his own - and even at that, I tried to keep it clean, issue related and at a light level, not as a mean-spirited personal attack - THAT I detest deeply!



Don't sweat it - we'll all survive - and I'll see you back on the board!



Cheers



Gary

 

[SHyans]

If I really wanted to talk trash, I'd even question the manhood of someone who'd own a Diesel truck with an automatic transmission.

WTF! Man, I can't believe anyone would actually post a comment like this!

 

[Tim]

WTF! Man, I can't believe anyone would actually post a comment like this!

I can. I waited over 3 months to get my truck just to get a 6 speed. Then, after I get it, and drive it over 5,000 miles in two months, including several thousand miles of towing, I get to listen to a bunch of whiners telling me that my truck is inferior, or the transmission is a point for failure.



If so, I want to know where they arrive at that with any sort of logic. Me personally, I haven't had even a hint of a problem, and I have no idea what they're whining about.



Most Diesel internet whiners have never owned a Diesel before... so they whine about issues like that. But to ***** about something you don't even own, I'll never understand.



Steve,



You can keep your DRW/longbox. It's overkill for what I do and I never haul anything anyway, so I have little use for the bed itself when I have a 20' trailer at home.

 

[TowRig]

Steve,



You can keep your DRW/longbox. It's overkill for what I do and I never haul anything anyway, so I have little use for the bed itself when I have a 20' trailer at home.

Tim

I don't have a DRW/longbox, I was just rubbing ya.

 

[msperos]

To get back on topic and answer Franks question

G56 reverse is to the left and down

NV5600 reverse is to the right and up

 

[fkovalski]

To get back on topic and answer Franks question

G56 reverse is to the left and down

NV5600 reverse is to the right and up

I just PM'd Tim as he stated this in an earlier post.



I am having a contradiction here: I have the shift pattern as: up and to the left.



I also have the option code as "DEE. " I called Dodge and they said that this code is most certainly a "G56 Heavy Duty 6 speed Transmission. "



Something is not jiving here.



EDIT- Make that- UP and to the RIGHT for my transmission.

 

[msperos]

Make that- UP and to the RIGHT for my transmission. Frank that would be the NV5600 my G56 is to the left and down.

 

[hasselbach]

I can. I waited over 3 months to get my truck just to get a 6 speed. Then, after I get it, and drive it over 5,000 miles in two months, including several thousand miles of towing, I get to listen to a bunch of whiners telling me that my truck is inferior, or the transmission is a point for failure.



If so, I want to know where they arrive at that with any sort of logic. Me personally, I haven't had even a hint of a problem, and I have no idea what they're whining about.



Most Diesel internet whiners have never owned a Diesel before... so they whine about issues like that. But to ***** about something you don't even own, I'll never understand.



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Tim, you CAN and YOU DID whine for months about how dodge made your life miserable. I even offered to sell you my 3 month old 05 6 speed, and you responded with ''I despise RED and I even more despise the sport package" When I brought his up recently in another post, you called me a Moron. . Then you insult the automatic crowd by insinuating that they are not men if they drive automatics. I think if anyone is a candidate for a skirt contest... .



Go figure.



In any event, I haven't seen of one single post here saying that the G56 is inferior. What I have seen is mostly facts, of which point to a lower max torque rating for the g56, and that to cure a bearing problem dodge is now instructing you to overfill the transmissions. The only real issue posted is the too low final ratio in 6th.



I think we would all agree that the dual mass flywheel is probably the weak point of the set up, and time will tell if indeed that is the problem, if any.