Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) Timing kit

[RHogge]

Does any one have a used 6860 Miller, or Snap-on #SP500 Timing kit they would like to sale.

 

[moparguy]

Or......

Would some one put together a kit using your knowledge of what we need that beats the Miller or Snap-On kits price wise.



RJR

 

[Reddog1]

You could just use a one inch travel dial indicator. If US, make a conversion table from Metric. There are many ways to clamp the indicator, only limited by your imagination. The delivery valve needs a special socket ($28?). There are several ways to turn the engine, but the Baring tool is probably the easiest. Just about any type of Bar type gear puller.



I pondered this over and over again. Finally just paid the $250 and bought the Miller. You still are not finished. As I recall, you need a 32MM socket for the gear nut, torque wrench for the nut, about a four foot extension for the baring tool. I think when I was through, I spent about $350.



I have the Miller. I prefer it over the Snap-on. My Miller kit had no puller. I use a bar type puller. I prefer it over the Snap-on. With the bar puller, you can clean the gear and shaft without removing and reinstalling the puller. I don't think you can do that with the Snap-on. I also use the bearings that come with the Miller.



In my neighborhood, it cost about $250 to have the timing set one time, and then to stock only. A fellow TDR member will set the timing where you want it for $100, but he is a 3-4 hour drive. I think this is very reasonable, but too long of a commute.



If you buy a Kit, it is a great loan item.







Wayne

 

[w-cummins]

Originally posted by Reddog1

I have the Miller. I prefer it over the Snap-on. My Miller kit had no puller. I use a bar type puller. I prefer it over the Snap-on. With the bar puller, you can clean the gear and shaft without removing and reinstalling the puller. I don't think you can do that with the Snap-on. I also use the bearings that come with the Miller.



Wayne

So I assume that from the above you have used the Snap-On set?? it also dose not come with a puller. So why is the Miller tool better? from what I can see of the Snap-on tool set there is not much to the setup. Is the miller adapter for the dial indicator better or the dial indicator its self??



William.....

 

[bighammer]

I still like this thing

 

[Howard Durand]

I have the Miller timing set and a Snap On gear puller.

My only problem with the Miller set is with the screw-in adapter that you mount the dial indicator in. The hole where the dial indicator fits is sloppy and since it only has one set screw, it is difficult to hold the indicator securely in place. You have to be careful not to bump it and screw up the reading.

I have read on another thread that the Miller dial indicator is poor quality but I have no problem with mine.

It was a little sticky when I got it but a couple drops of clock oil in the tube fixed that up fine.

 

[Josparkz]

Originally posted by bighammer

I still like this thing

I still haven't quite figured out how you time a pump with that

 

[hsmith]

Originally posted by w-cummins

So I assume that from the above you have used the Snap-On set?? it also dose not come with a puller. So why is the Miller tool better? from what I can see of the Snap-on tool set there is not much to the setup. Is the miller adapter for the dial indicator better or the dial indicator its self??



William.....

The Snap-On Kit is complete with the delivery valve socket, gear puller, and dial indicator with adaptor which screws in place of the delivery valve. Only thing else you may need is barring tool and lots of patience for the first time.

Check and double check before changing anything!

hsmith

 

[1dslram]

The barring tool is a waste of money IMO. Use the alternator nut or I use the fan nut, for the other direction use a 15mm socket on one of the balancer pulley nuts. The barring tool is too slow even with a air ratchet and universals so it can be reached from the front.

Bruce

 

[w-cummins]

Originally posted by hsmith

The Snap-On Kit is complete with the delivery valve socket, gear puller, and dial indicator with adaptor which screws in place of the delivery valve. Only thing else you may need is barring tool and lots of patience for the first time.

Check and double check before changing anything!

hsmith

I went and looked at the snap-on set on their site I see the disk they sell for a puller not too impressive. Also 70% of the cost seems to be in their dial indicator (way too much for a blue point part) I think I will order the adapter and the socket from them and then just pick up a good quality starrett indicator and save some money!

 

[1dslram]

The snap-on set is expensive but works great. The puller supplied works perfect and has been posted in other treads it doesn't bend like others. Be sure to get a metric indicator it is a pain to convert to mm and too easy to make a mistake.

Bruce