2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Tire Siping

[illflem]

John, Schwab can't be beat for their prices and service but you MUST watch their every move to get things done right. As the owner of another tire shop told me, "Schwab trains all of our employees". Meaning is Schwab's employee turnover is high and most are first time tire people. I watched a Schwab tire monkey wail down the lugs with an impact in a circular pattern on a PSD parked next to my truck. When I told him I didn't want mine done that way he said that was the way he always did it, I had to help him adjust the torque wrench, he didn't know how...



Dee, my Toyos look just like the Wrangler ATs. There a bit noisier than I'd like but the Cummins drowns that out.

 

[Hammer]

Siping 101

Believer,,As most have already told you siping has both effects,positive and negative,,On street tires myself I would not sipe them,with the multitudes of tires and compounds available there are more than enough tires to do the job you need without sacrificing tread wear,,In most cases,siping is done to correct or enhance traction problems or excessive heat buildup,,If the tire is siped to deeply the first time it will cause the premature wear patterns that some are seeing(i. e. -chunks tore off),,In our race applications we sipe to help bite on heavy tracks and to help remove heat(slowing blistering)on dry tracks,,Heat in our truck tires may be a concern while towing,but siping with weight will have negative effects(extremely shorten tire life),,Your choice of course,,Since I see your from the Show Me state and they have a few of the fastest dirt tracks around,I'd look for a race shop specializing in dirt race equipment,,You can purchase you own siper/groover reasonably there,,They are electric(heated) and will do the job you want,,If you can not find one let me know and I'll run to one of our shops here in Central PA and get you one...

 

[MChrist]

Happy 10th anniversary to this thread!!

Does anybody have more input or first hand experience with siping tires? I've been doing most of my tires and have noticed only positive results. I don't sipe tires that already have a lot of sipes, however.
Hand sipers can be bought inexpensively, can be done by anybody, and help tremendously. Or, it can be done at tire shops pretty inexpensively.

Any input?

 

[MChrist]

*bump*bump*bump*

 

[MChrist]

What is SIPING and how does it help your tires grip the road - YouTube

The advantages of siping.

 

[MChrist]

I noticed on the cover of the new "Diesel Tech" magazine, the red 2008 GMC on the cover has some big Toyo Open Country M/T tires. Look closer, and you will notice that he had his tires siped in the middle of the tread. That's exactly what siping looks like after they get some sand in there to keep them open.
You would think that with huge, aggressive tires the truck would have all the traction it would ever need, but it takes more than that, sometimes.
If anybody has questions on siping, just ask. I've done several tires at work with great results. It's quick, easy to do by hand with a siping tool, and greatly increases traction if you have to deal with slippery, wet roads. It even helps in snow.
Whether you do it by hand or have them siped at a tire store, the results will be comparable.
Just something to ponder with winter here, now.