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[Wayno]

Originally posted by Jandtjil

Just my opinion here, but. I paid to be a member of a DCTD registry, if I wanted to sort through remarks made by well meaning owners of other vehicles I could probably surf the free sites for information I need.

I like my truck and enjoy hanging with like minded, regardless whether they have blinders to other brands.

I do agree that the general public is ignorant of diesel performance, let them become informed of the other brands somewhere else.



JJ

I agree Jandtjil , I also join the TDR to learn more about Dodge trucks that have a Cummins Diesel in them . If I want to learn about a Ford with a Diesel motor in it that is made by International / Navistar I would join that OTHER CLUB . Now I don't mine a little gossip now and then but if you gonna brag about those Fix Or Repair Daily take it on over to the other site . Oh and by the way TDK when I go to a antique car show or a cruse night I want to see cars that are from the seventies on back . I don't want to see a bunch of kids in rice mobiles with a big fat tail pipe . The same goes for the TDR rallies around the country . I want to see Dodge trucks that have a Cummins in them . If you have a Cummins Conversion in another brand truck then bring it too but leave the International's and Isuzu's at home . My father has a Ford with a 6. 9 in it and with almost 200,000 on it it has held up pretty good but I don't get on the TDR and brag about it . You know TDK as much as you brag about those Fix Or Repair Daily you ought to sell that GOAT and get you a FORD .

 

[TxDieselKid]

Originally posted by Wayno

Oh and by the way TDK when I go to a antique car show or a cruse night I want to see cars that are from the seventies on back . I don't want to see a bunch of kids in rice mobiles with a big fat tail pipe . The same goes for the TDR rallies around the country .

I hate those rice burners also, but once you get inside their groups, you see a, "ALL BRAND IS WELCOME" kind of events, same as I see at the old "Street Meet" on Saturday nights, on the north end of town.

I want to see Dodge trucks that have a Cummins in them . If you have a Cummins Conversion in another brand truck then bring it too but leave the International's and Isuzu's at home .

So do I, what's wrong with having an ALL brand event, and only talking to other Cummins owners? The numbers will jump MUCH higher if such an ALL brand event is held, this will help with group discounts, and vendors showing up. Think vendors would like a group of 50 people, and talk about the same thing all day(engine wise), or a group of 125, and have a diverse group of engines to talk about?

You know TDK as much as you brag about those Fix Or Repair Daily you ought to sell that GOAT and get you a FORD .

I will NEVER sell this Dodge, for a Ford, but heck, even Bill Kondolay once stated, "If I were going to drive cross-country, I'd take the Ford". But I guess he doesn't know what he's talking about either.



Many people on this board, make assumptions about other diesel engines, and don't relieze what is outside of their world. All I do is state the truth, is that wrong?



Just because I reconize the fact that there are other trucks, that I am intrested in because they are Diesel does not mean I want one. I relieze that some are not this open minded though.





Andrew

 

[Wayno]

Yea ,well the ricers can stay on their side of town and play all that trashy @ss rap music all night long . The people at the cruse night that I go to want to here music that comes from the 50ties ,60ties and 70ties . I can live with the oldies . Did you know that a lot of older folks with there older and hot rod cars wont go to Houston or Pasadena any more because of the low riding ricers and did you know that the street meet put on by the Cruising Times Magazine is no more . Yea , just what I like to see , a bunch of wannabes in a ricer with a big tail pipe dragging the ground making sparks fly and a big booming radio play rap music . I think I will just say at home AND I have never said Bill K. didn't know what he was talking about and the next time I speak to him on the phone I will ask him if I ever have . Well he!! I will even tell you a Ford(going cross country) rides better than a Dodge but then again so does a Cadillac but then again I wont be on the TDR web site bragging about a Cadillac either !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TxDieselKid]

Originally posted by Wayno

Yea ,well the ricers can stay on their side of town and play all that trashy @ss rap music all night long . The people at the cruse night that I go to want to here music that comes from the 50ties ,60ties and 70ties . I can live with the oldies . Did you know that a lot of older folks with there older and hot rod cars wont go to Houston or Pasadena any more because of the low riding ricers and did you know that the street meet put on by the Cruising Times Magazine is no more . Yea , just what I like to see , a bunch of wannabes in a ricer with a big tail pipe dragging the ground making sparks fly and a big booming radio play rap music . I think I will just say at home AND I have never said Bill K. didn't know what he was talking about and the next time I speak to him on the phone I will ask him if I ever have . Well he!! I will even tell you a Ford(going cross country) rides better than a Dodge but then again so does a Cadillac but then again I wont be on the TDR web site bragging about a Cadillac either !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why are you getting worked up?



I agree with you about the ricers. I use to go to that Street Meet all the time, and I picked up the Crusing Times mag at Maimi Subs on Westimer, a great car show that was RUINED by the ricers. I will NEVER drive a forgin car, my family has lost members in war, fighting those nations, why should I buy from them?



I never said you stated that BillK didn't know what he was talking about, that was a sarcastic joke, sorry of it offended.



Why have you always had an attutide towards me? Did I say ever anything that offened you?



Andrew

 

[Wayno]

Attitude , I just agreed with ya . I said a Ford rides better than a Dodge . Don't fill like the Lone Ranger , I let that other TDR member that doesn't even own a Dodge(he owns a Ford with that IH motor) what I thought about him bragging about those Fords on the forms all the time . Now you tell me why anybody would want to get on a Dodge Diesel Web site that is for Dodge Diesel owners and brag about a Ford . Lets see what is word I looking for here ~ Huuuummmmm ~~ agitate . I know that there are a few TDR members that go over to those other two sites and stir things up over there and if I was a proud owner of a Ford or Chevy I would get tired of their bragging about Dodges in the Ford or the Chevy site too.

 

[TxDieselKid]

I really do try NOT to brag about the Fords, but many do have misconceptions about them. They say things like, "my buddy said his neighbors cousin has a powerstroke, and he ran a 15. 7 at the drag strip, how is that possible, it's not a Cummings?" I simply state what some others have done. Is it wrong inform them of things like this? Is this bragging or stating the truth?



Andrew

 

[esommer2500]

Wayno: I guess I would just point out again that this forum is titled 'General Diesel' and means that we can talk about IH engines all day long. I enjoy all the Big 3 trucks, and briefly discussing them here, be it accomplishments or downfalls, saves me the time of surfing 13 different sites.



Brand Diesel over brand Dodge.



Eric

 

[TxDieselKid]

Here is another way to look at it, at the old Street Meet, was it just one brand? No, it was all brands, and most people just wanted to see a good looking classic car. This is how I feel about diesels.

 

[C. Harlan]

Amen to that, brother! I am into show and shine, as Andrew can vouch, and I like it, being able to turn heads almost anywhere I go, either from the truck shining, or the smoke fogging... Both ways, it makes me



-Chris-

 

[Wayno]

Really esommer2500,I'm a Texican not a Mexican I can read English. I think I figured that out from Jandtjil last post. Did you say~Talk About Or Brag About ???????? and TDK,Charlan I think it says on the top of this page " Established in 1993 , the Turbo Diesel Register is your number one resource for DODGE/CUMMINS Turbo Diesel truck information ! " Maybe we should get a poll going and see how many members want to change that to" your number one resource for Dodge/Cummins , Ford/Navistar , Chevrolet/Isuzu Turbo Diesel truck information ! " ????????? Then all the brands can show up at all the TDR rallys . I can see Joseph Donnelly now,trying to put all the brands on one T- Shirt for May Madness . Then we can be like a couple of those OTHER Web Sites~~~~~~~~~~~~~~This post has been posted by Wayno in the " General Diesel Topics ".

 

[TxDieselKid]

There is nothing wrong with learning something about other brands IMO. Or talking to other DIESEL folks in my opinion. If you do not wish to talk to someone else that at least has a DIESEL interest, not necessarily a CUMMINS interest, then that is good for you, don't socialize with them.



I know this is the #1 source for the Cummins, that's why I come here most. You dont' see me opening new threads about why the Ford fueling system needs to be upgraded over here do ya? Or about hos quick a Duramax is with just one simple add-on.



Andrew

 

[esommer2500]

Guess we better ask admin to retitle this forum:



"General Diesel: But No Navistar/Isuzu/CAT/Detroit or Anything Else Wayno Doesn't Want To Talk About"



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[Wayno]

If you would re-read my first post here esommer2500 I said I didn't mind a little gossip now and then BUT if you are going to brag about a FORD take it to that OTHER web sit . Now what I would like to see the Admin. do is take that How Many Post (number of post a member has made)Off the Page . It seems here a few members are more concern on the race to run their post count up in the forms than how fast their truck may run or pull !!!!!!!!!!!! BUT I do have one question for ya esommer , just how many of the Big 3 Diesel have you driven in " strenuous everyday settings " (miles) since 1980 ????? OR should I say since about 1997 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ give or take a year :--) :--) :--) :--)

 

[esommer2500]

I said I didn't mind a little gossip now and then BUT if you are going to brag about a FORD take it to that OTHER web sit .

Who's bragging about a Ford? If nothing else the show this thread started talking about showed, yet again, the inadequacies the PSD has compared to the Cummins in the BOMB-ability factor. The fact that these engines need a substantial amount of drugs, money, and effort to reach a competition stage is old news.



I, for one, am still interested in what it takes for the PSD or Duramax to reach that point, just for my own knowledge. If I can do that here and not HAVE to go to other sites, that suits me just fine. I guess if you don't want to read about what the PSD's or Duramax's are getting into, well... don't.

Now what I would like to see the Admin. do is take that How Many Post (number of post a member has made)Off the Page .

I agree. I could give a rip how many times I have posted. Obviously I'm not in the race.

just how many of the Big 3 Diesel have you driven in " strenuous everyday settings " (miles) since 1980 ????? OR should I say since about 1997 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ give or take a year

For the record, I turned 22 in October last year. My Dad had a 93 1-ton extended cab, auto. that I couldn't get enough of. Sadly, it lost a transmission and got sold before I got to play with it much.



I worked for an asphalt paving company when I was 17. I was the crew foreman for the sealing division, and my company truck was a 93 Ford 6. 9 NA with a 4 sp. manual. The truck was almost always overloaded, as it had a 500 gal sealer tank on it. We also pulled a trailer with all our other equipment behind it. It wouldn't get in a hurry, but used no oil and never left us stranded. The company still has the truck today. It hauls tools, fuel, and a small roller behind it everyday.



The next summer I started working for a concrete contractor. He had a 94 3500 that hauled a Bobcat mini-excavator everyday at the time I started working for him. Hoe and trailer weighed around 12,000 lbs. It also plowed snow, and remained absolutely bone stock. We sold it after it got wrecked with 260,000 HARD miles. A guy in town bought it, and is still driving it with over 350,000 miles.



We also had a 98. 5 24v 3500 that led much the same life. We would still have it if a disgruntled customer hadn't put sugar in the tank. It was traded with 130,000 HARD miles for a 2000 Ford F-350. This truck is still in service with only 95,000 miles, and has performed well, less some brake problems. There was also an incident with the fuel system and filter, but it has been remedied, under warranty.



Boss bought a brand new 2002 Duramax last year. Same kind of service, pulls something everyday. It's OK, but I don't like it a whole lot. It drives more like a gasser. Ride is nice, though.



My personal truck is put through the same paces when I work in the summer. With my modest BOMBs, it performs above and beyond the rest of these vehicles in towing. The 98. 5 was my second favorite, with the Ford coming in third.



I don't proclaim to be an expert of any sort, but I don't think there are too many that have used/abused all of these vehicles in similar situations. I might be wrong, though.



BTW, I have averaged about 38,000 miles per year on my truck alone. If I had to guess, I have driven the others I mentioned about 5000 miles or more each. Take it for what it's worth.



Eric

 

[Wayno]

Not worth much . I have wore out more trucks than you are old . When you get as many miles as I have behind the wheel of all different types , brands , year models , tonnage and for what it's worth colors and that includes yellow , then I will take it for what it's worth ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ and nobody is expert , but some people do have more experience than others . It's called age.

 

[TxDieselKid]

Originally posted by esommer2500

I agree. I could give a rip how many times I have posted. Obviously I'm not in the race.

I agree.

 

[C. Harlan]

nobody is expert , but some people do have more experience than others . It's called age.



This brings me back to an old Rodeo song..... "It aint the Years, boys, IT'S THE MILES!" Its true... I had a 95 Pete 379, and put over 250,000 miles on it in 2 years. . I just turned 23 March 30th, and have seen lots more miles since I turned 16 than most people will see in a lifetime. Just thought I would share that.



-Chris-