Toasted

[Moab4x4]

Thanks for the hints and tips about the oily water situation I got myself into. I appreciated the comments and the moral support as my truck was sick.

I hadn't had time to work on the truck since early September due to the birth of our new baby girl! Oo. (#7, I wish Dodge made a 9 passenger Cummins Ram!)

Anyway, I pulled the head and cylinder 1 had about 1" of rusty goo in it. :{ the head had rusted a little next to the valves as well. Three cylinders have scored walls, #1 worst. I can move the piston side to side by hand. It looks like the surface had bounced something around in there for a while at some point. While taking everything apart, there were oil puddles in the IC boots, how much oil should be coming from the turbo? Is it toasting too? I removed it from the 21cm housing and was going to put on my brand new 16cm housing from Piers until I saw the big picture.



I don't have the facilities, time , or $$ right now to do a full overhaul or get a rebuilt engine. It will cost me as much as I paid for the truck to fix it now.

Unfortunately my discrecionary funds are pretty spent. I just put it back together and parked it in the boneyard for now (parked it where the 77 Frd Crew was that I had to resurrect today. ) Now I have to try do decide the best course of action.

#1 Sell truck (good, solid, bad paint but no rust, good interior, ... ... . ) and take my losses and count it toward the great education she's given me. Buy another when I can and/or convert the 77 Frd 4 door to CTD. (What could one get for a decent 92 W350 single wheel with a buildable core as an engine ?)

#2 Wait and rebuild engine later

#3 Keep an eye out for a donor truck when funding allows. Maybe 2nd gen for the comfy stuff to stick in along with the VP.

I still have hope of building ~350 HP in my cummins. I live in a Frd town.



Thanks again for all your help and all you have taught me!!

 

[KSommer]

man, that sucks. if it were a club cab i'd come get it from ya, but as is, i can't help you. sorry.

kent

 

[bgilbert]

Option #2. Park it, and when time and money gets there, tear into it more and you'll learn even more. Thats what I'd probly do.

 

[jbolt]

#7!!!!! shouldn't this be in the energizer bunny thread. :-laf :-laf



Congrats on the little one. Sorry to hear about the CTD.

 

[RHancock]

I would do a quick rebuild. . the pistons and rings arn't that bad. $$$ wise. . the part that is going to be hard is to get the block borred and honed for the new pistons... the crank and the rest is probibly ok... if the bores are not that bad you may be able to get by with just a hone job and one new piston... if you want to do it on the cheep..... diesels are alot more forgiving than gas motors and will run with alot of blowby quite well supprizingly...



or find another shortblock from a wrecked truck. .

 

[Moab4x4]

Blasphemy??

Option #2 looks to be the most likely right now. The fun question is how much fun can I have while I am inside it? I am starting to accumulate parts. This way I can build it from the start the way I want to.



Now here is a question. .

Pastor, forgive the heresy, how hard would it be to take my hopped up 72 400 gasser and put it into the truck while I am waiting to build the Cummins?

Both are autos, one 518, the other 727.



I would remove the cummins with the exhaust system and take the 400 from the most redneck 72 Dodge Monaco station wagon that you have ever seen. :-laf



Does the B gasser have the same bolt pattern as the B Diesel for the auto?

I am aware of valve body and TQ issues with RPM ranges of the motors, but would be interested to see what would happen.



I have taken the wagon out of service for interior reasons, so I can scavenge parts needed to make the gasser run.



Would I need to bypass the diesel fuel tank and lines, or just clean it really good on both ends of the swaps?



I know this is not the preferable way to do it, but it would let me use the truck in the meantime and I think I have the stuff to do it.



Opinions (or flames?)

 

[Greenleaf]

You've chosen..........FLAMES!

GAS POWER!!!??? Ahhhuuugggg. Choke/caugh... .



The powers of the dark side are great.



GL

 

[Headshot zod]

Son, the April Fools Day thread was closed long ago... .....

 

[Philip]

The cummins has its own bolt pattern. That B gasser will not bolt up.

 

[PToombs]

The cummins has its own bolt pattern. That B gasser will not bolt up.

Thank Gawd, we may have saved him from a fate worse than PSD! :-laf

 

[Moab4x4]

Saved!..I Repent!!!

Still in the fold. The 400 might have to go into my 73 Duster. .

Thanks for the info Philip, you have convinced me to just wait and do it right. The truck is fun to drive and darn useful, hard to wait.

Now how many horses to build into it??????

 

[Philip]

If memory serves me right. A 400 C. I block with a 440 crank + . 030 over = 527 C. I.



That should do the duster a little justice.



You need a alum case 833 for a A body Dodge? I have one that needs someone elses name on it. LOL

 

[Moab4x4]

Yeah, I knew a guy that raced the 500 CI non bored version with NOS. :--)

Mine is pretty stock except purple cam & few other goodies like holley EFI & dual glasspacks. The redneck wagon with 727 and 3. 23's out towed my Dad's F250.

Hmmmm. Is that 833 one of the featherduster OD units???

The truck has current priority, but you have me thinking.

 

[Philip]

holley EFI

I hope you have better luck with that unit than I did. I had one on a 72 Chevy C30 for 10 months. During that time the truck was down for 10 weeks for injection unit problems.



The 833 I have is not the OD model. Chy tech crossed the numbers on it for me and it crossed to a 70 Dart. It has the BB bearing front bearing retainer on it.