Trade for 6.7 or keep my 5.9, what say yeh.

[pwr2tow]

Dealership called and said they would trade my truck in signature for a new 2007 6. 7, 68RFE, 3500 dually, 4x4, SLT for $4,000 to boot. Both trucks are comparably equiped.

Miles per gallon for my truck are:
city driveing 14 MPG.
combined city and highway 18 - 20 depends on wind and how many times at the boat ramp.
highway driving 21 - 22. 5 depends on wind and a couple stop signs.
Towing a 10,000 lb 5th wheel is 10-11.
Keep in mind I never drive over 65 MPH towing or unloaded, even on the interstate. My truck has almost 10,000 miles on it so MPG might improve some more with more miles.

I have owned a couple of duallies in the past and do perfer them while towing. That is one of the reasons I'am thinking of trading but I really can get by with my 2500.

I also like the idea of the 6 speed auto.


I have not heard too many positive things about the new trucks. Me thinks maybe it would be a mistake to trade. $4,000 to drive my truck 10,000 miles is also not good but I can buy a new truck for only $4,000 not that I need a new truck either.

That's where you guys come into play. What would you do?

 

[pwr2tow]

P. S. I'll be gone from the computer most of today and daughter getting married tomarow with reception at the lake all weekend so I will not be getting back to you guys for awhile.

Will be interesting to read everyones ideas when I get home.

Thanks,
Ron

 

[y-knot]

For only 4K, I would let her go and get the new truck. Sounds like a good deal to me.

 

[jcarey]

I agree. That's sounds like a great deal, especially since you're trading in what will soon be a 2 year old vehicle.

 

[betterthanstock]

I would say that since dealers mark up the price of a trade-in around $7000 (before bargaining), that the dealer must know he can resell your used 5. 9 for close to what a new 6. 7 sells. There are some people out there looking for a good, recent, low mileage 5. 9, due to the much better mpg, so he may know of pent up demand for low mileage 5. 9's. Just go into a dealer and pretend that you are looking to buy one exactly like yours, and see how much they want for it.



Figure an extra 3-500 fuel bill for every 10K that you will drive the 6. 7

 

[BHolm]

Have you read the posts here about the troubles guys are having with the 6. 7? The emmissions system is an issue, a big one by the looks of things. The 5. 9 is well proven, you really don't get any interior or exterior improvements, in fact you avoid the stupid chevy bubble tailights if you stay with the '06. You are also half way through breaking in the '06, the time when they get the worst milage, do you want to start over?



If I knew the 6. 7 was going to be as trouble free as the 5. 9, I might consider it. I think it is safe to say, that is not the case.

 

[RVTRKN]

If you need the 3500 than it is a good deal, but if you are going to tow the same RV/boats than it is a bad decision. The MPG is about 2-3 MPG worse than the 5. 9 CTD. I documented precise MPG on a trip to Kansas and back. Check "Road trip with pics as promised" in the C&C forum. Note that this truck is the C&C with the 305 HP version 07. 5-6. 7CTD 6spd. G56 manuel trans.



I needed the C&C and had no choice in getting the new truck as a C&C and I do love it so far, even with the lower MPG.

 

[RVTRKN]

Have you read the posts here about the troubles guys are having with the 6. 7? The emmissions system is an issue, a big one by the looks of things. The 5. 9 is well proven, you really don't get any interior or exterior improvements, in fact you avoid the stupid chevy bubble tailights if you stay with the '06. You are also half way through breaking in the '06, the time when they get the worst milage, do you want to start over?



If I knew the 6. 7 was going to be as trouble free as the 5. 9, I might consider it. I think it is safe to say, that is not the case.

Software glitches are not that big of deal, when D/C is aware and is working on the problem unlike Ford who denied for years they had faulty wiring (not software) and worked against International who wanted to supply their engines with the Harnesses and Ford thought they could do it themselves.



RWendlick, if you need the 3500 and can not find a new 5. 9, I would not worry about the 6. 7 and you can check my sig, I put my money where my mouth is, and yet to have a problem.

 

[FATCAT]

You must be insane to even consider that trade.

The dealer knows the 6. 7L are going to be the new lemons and wants your good old 5. 9L to make money. He will sell your '06 for a big profit and stick you with a nightmare.



He probably is realizing that he is going to be stuck with a bunch of new 6. 7L and will do anything to get rid of them.



You have a perfectly good truck ... . drive it till the wheels fall off.

 

[KnightR]

No offense to those who bought 06's and 07's but man o man are they butt ugly. But maybe that ole song "If you want to be happy for the rest of your life never take a pretty truck for life. " Well it almost sounds like that.

 

[MStrain]

I would say go for it, your not just getting a way better transmission, according to some of the threads on here, likely it is superior to the 48re, you get a standard exhaust brake. I prefer the looks of the 06, the new headlights are way, way better than my 05 gasser, no comparison. The 6. 7 is also way clean burning, I have heard there still working out some kinks in the DPF on these trucks, but that is the risk you take with a first generation product, that is probably the only downside. But the warranty should take care of any issues you run into. Go for it.

 

[GButia]

That dealer has somebody lined up to pay big bucks for your old truck. I wouldn't do it now, there seems to be some glitches that need to be worked out. In fact... . dare I say... if I had to buy a new truck right now it would be a dmax. The 2010 emission compliant lmm can run a straight thru exhaust with out reprecussion apparently. A cel comes on but you can fool the computer and turn the light out. Plus the engine is basically the same platform as the previous three model years plus a particulate filter..... more proven. The 6. 7 is gonna need time to work out some issues.

 

[BBeck]

I would suggest treating it as a business decision. What is the FWP for the same equipped truck, less $3500 rebate, less $500 Farm rebate and then compare that cost to what a trade-in price is on your truck and full retail. The cost difference between a 2500 and 3500 is only $400 new.



Since the dealer called you (marketing gimmick) tell them you will do it at no cost since the rebates could cover the $4k he is quoting you.



Negotiate... otherwise you will leave money on the table. Especially if they jack up the trade-in by $7k. I would treat their offer as the highest cost to you.



I had a similar call many years ago and it went something like this: "my name is John at (name of dealer here) and we have a lot of customers looking for your (name of your car/truck). We would be eager to have you come over and we will buy it from you. " Then when I drill into the details, they finally confess that I would have to buy a new or used vehicle from them.



Contrary to several opinions about the 6. 7L, I would definately go for it. The only hesitancy I would have is for someone works who either lives very remote from a dealer for warranty work or someone that uses the truck specifically for work like a long-haul driver as either can't afford any downtime for software fixes etc.



Brad

 

[pwr2tow]

Just a short note before I take off to the wedding.

Man, everyone makes a great point. That's whats so hard about deciding if I should buy or not. I read one post and I think, "yep he's right" then I read another and sways me back the other way. :-laf Don't get me wrong I love dealing and dickering on just about anything. :-laf That's how I get myself into these situations. :-laf :-laf :-laf .

I have decked out (dated term) the way I like it, which makes the deal even more difficult for me. I leaning more towards just keeping my truck. Decisions, decisions :-laf .

Some more info, They started out at $12,4??. 00 to boot a few weeks ago. I told them nothing more than $4,000. They came down to $8,???. 00 a short time later that day. I told them nothing more than $4,000. They called me yesterday and said they could probably do the deal. I said nothing more than $4,000.

I'am going by what I think the dealership can buy a new truck from DC (or whatever there called now) for and subtracting trade-in price for my truck. Any dealers out there that could tell me if I can make a better deal or am I at where we should be. I know dealerships have to make a living, even I have to make a living, I just want a fair deal which to me would be the dealership makeing around $1,000 - $1,500 after their exspenses and overhead.

Everyone please keep the comments coming.

 

[AzCattle]

I have been in a simllar situation as yours. I own a 2003 3500 and it has been the best truck I have ever owned hands down. I have several people that would love to buy the truck but I have a hard time justifying spending money on a new car smell and pretty paint especially when this truck still runs perfectly. Would I trade for a new somewhat questionable truck? Not quite yet. I think I will be patient for the new body style and by then the glitches might have been worked through. Are you really getting that much more bang for your buck with the new truck. I guess thats your call. Reliability is much more important to me than that new truck smell.

 

[tgrfan2]

I have driven a friend's 68rfe. The increased power, much better shifting and exhaust brake make it worth $4K over an 06 if the reflash fixes the regen problem.

 

[DPelletier]

I have been in a simllar situation as yours. I own a 2003 3500 and it has been the best truck I have ever owned hands down. I have several people that would love to buy the truck but I have a hard time justifying spending money on a new car smell and pretty paint especially when this truck still runs perfectly. Would I trade for a new somewhat questionable truck? Not quite yet. I think I will be patient for the new body style and by then the glitches might have been worked through. Are you really getting that much more bang for your buck with the new truck. I guess thats your call. Reliability is much more important to me than that new truck smell.

You make a very good point. Personally, I think the '03 - '04 (pre Jan) trucks get my vote; they still have the benefits of the 3rd gens (brakes, steering, interior, etc) without the cat and other pollution control garbage. My problem is that I should be using a 4500 Series truck for the loads I carry so I've been waiting for some time for them to finally come out and it's a little disheartening to hear of some glitches (although I'm not completely surprized given the EPA regs).



I'm hopeful that DC (or whatever they're gonna be called) will deal with the DPF issue and that a simple software revision takes care of it. We'll see, I guess. IMO, it's WAY premature to compare the 6. 7 to the 6. 0 PSD fiasco.

 

[AKaiser]

Well, it's only one truck, and it was a C&C, but Mark at TST thought alot of the new 6. 7 he has been working with. He said it was stronger than the 5. 9. We didn't get into discussion about the emissions equipment.

I'm hopeful that DC (or whatever they're gonna be called)

I believe they will be called Chrysler Corporation, a division of Chrysler Holdings, LLC, a Cerberus company.

 

[gsbrockman]

You must be insane to even consider that trade.

The dealer knows the 6. 7L are going to be the new lemons and wants your good old 5. 9L to make money. He will sell your '06 for a big profit and stick you with a nightmare.



He probably is realizing that he is going to be stuck with a bunch of new 6. 7L and will do anything to get rid of them.



You have a perfectly good truck ... . drive it till the wheels fall off.

:-laf:-laf:-laf You crack me up. :-laf:-laf:-laf



The 6. 7L's are hardly "distressed" merchandise as you proclaim them to be, at least in my neck of the woods. :-laf



Including myself, I have 3 other friends that went to Dodge 3500's with the 6. 7L "lemon" engine in the last two months or less. :-laf



Derrick went from an 06 RAM 3500 to an 07. 5 RAM 3500; Joey added an 07. 5 RAM 3500 Cab & Chassis side by side with his 06 Chev 3500 D/A (and he likes towing with the 305/610 Dodge best); and Jared went from an 04 Chev 3500 D/A to an 07. 5 RAM 3500.



If I had the time to review all your posts, I'd imagine I'd find you were a naysayer for the HPCR when they were originally introduced for the 2003 MY. :-{}



Greg

 

[FATCAT]

:-laf:-laf:-laf You crack me up. :-laf:-laf:-laf



If I had the time to review all your posts, I'd imagine I'd find you were a naysayer for the HPCR when they were originally introduced for the 2003 MY. :-{}



Greg

New fangled com-pu-ter mobiles. Worst thing in the world for cars/trucks was these computer devices ... cars/trucks are the worst environment for these things also. Plus it seems you gotta be a millionaire to own one of the new trucks also. I've been waiting for the 4500/5500 and I'll be damned if I were to spend a fourtune on a truck if some com-pu-ter device shuts down the truck every 100 miles or so. #@$%!