Trailer Tire Blowout !

[DRR-24V]

A couple of months ago my tire was diagnosed as having an impending tread separation due to a funny wear pattern. Guy's here advised me to be careful of the rest of the tires as they may have the same problem. I pulled that tire and put on the spare (it was new) and with 300 miles on it it blew out Sat. at 65 mph. Woke me up. You guys made a believer out of me. It did not help the side of the trailer either. I am buying 4 new Load Range E tires. These were Load Range D. (Carlisle Brand)

 

[Fireman Dave]

Yikes! That's what's on mine! Glad you're ok.

 

[DRR-24V]

Fireman Dave

Dave,

They are Carlisle ST225/75 R15 L/R D. For Trailer Use Only. They come on about all decent trailers. I am just afraid of them now.

 

[SLVRBLT]

DRR-24V-



I pulled about 5,000 miles last summer on one trip and had a nightmare with tires. My 5er weighs 9K empty and I went through 3 Carlisles like yours. The last one was a blowout that really tore up a lot of things like the side of the trailer, propane lines, etc. By the time I got home I had bought 4 tires. They weren't what I really wanted, but I was stranded and didn't have any choice.



Be sure and check the max load rating on your tires against the trailer weight WHEN LOADED! After doing the math, I discovered I was running at about max load with all the stuff in the trailer.



This spring I am going to change to 16" tires and wheels and get my load rating up over 12K. I don't need any more experience like I had. My $. 02.



Dave

 

[DRR-24V]

SLVRBLT

I did all the weights and am ok there.



Pin Weight=2100

Trailer axles=7550

Load max on each tire is 2540 lbs. I know other brands blow out, but this ruined me on Carslile tires. If I had not raised the trailer 5" the damage would have been much worse. This bent a steel plate and knocked 2 holes in the belly of the rig. Minor damage to the side. In the past I would have been furious, but after 9/11/01 I am just thankful this is all that happened. Know what I mean. ?

 

[Fireman Dave]

Re: SLVRBLT

Originally posted by DRR-24V

In the past I would have been furious, but after 9/11/01 I am just thankful this is all that happened. Know what I mean. ?

Well said, Don.

 

[M Barnett]

In the past I would have been furious, but after 9/11/01 I am just thankful this is all that happened. Know what I mean. ?

I agree, very well said. I know it wasn't any fun Don, but you should be in my Freightliner when it blows a tire at 100 PSI with 30 lbs of tread flying off! I once threw a cheesburger across the cab and luckly no one was sitting over there. I've always worried about one of those gators flying off and hitting somebody on a bike. I've also ridden Harleys all my life and scared to death of trucks when riding.

M Barnett

 

[RHamner]

Our 1998 Automate 31' 10400#(loaded) fifth was bought used in 2000. It had 225 75r 15 carlisle after market tires on 6 bolt wheels. In Ohio on a hot sultry day doing about 60mph someone passed waving excitedly. We've RV'd a long time and that means stop and check it out. I stopped and walked back. It all looked fine untill I saw that one tire full of air had thrown the entire tread. I'd sure like to buy the guy that frantically waved at me a beer or 2.



We bought 5 16" 6 bolt wheels(less than $45 each), and went to 245 75r 16Es. It raised the trailer 3/4" is turning slower, has a higher rating, is more common on the road, and I carry(in addition to the mounted spare for the truck and trailer) and unmouted tire that will fit either. (mostly for Mexico travel) In the next 15000 mi of towing we have been free of tire problems.



IMHO if they will fit it's a no brainer. It ups the capability of what I think is the weak link.

 

[Turbo Thom]

Rhamner:

You stated the 16" wheel only raised the trailer 3/4 inches. I have been under the impression the axles needed to be flipped for the 16" wheel. I have the same size tires on my Wanderer. I wanted to go with the "E" range tire but did not want to flip the axles. As you know the E range only comes in the 16" wheel size. I will try what you say.



Thanks.



. . Preston. .

 

[D. Showan]

Has anyone had problems with Goodyear Marathon's. My 93 27 foot Jayco still has the original 205\75R15's l/r C and I really don't trust them. At 50psi. they still seem to squat to much. I thought I would just go up to 225's but maybe I should also go up to a D range.



Any suggestions????

 

[RHamner]

Preston... . My chart shows the 245 75r 16 OD as 30. 6 and the 225 75r 15 as 28. 4. So 1/2 the differance would be closer to a 1" higher rig. On my chart it's also an inch wider tire. You need to check your clearance with care. We have no springs, a full air ride suspension so clearance would not relate.

 

[DRR-24V]

RHamner & TurboThom

You guys had it right. I can't just go out and buy load range E for 15" wheels. I have chrome spoke now, what a bummer.





DShowan,

The following is off a trailer tire site. (tire recalls)



Goodyear will adjust the old type Marathon, Load Range "D", ST 225 R75/15. The old tire does not have a circled "S" after the word radial on the sidewall. The new tire does. In many cases they will replace the old tire at no cost, or maybe a small fee for mounting an balancing, it depends on tire wear. If you have the old type ST 225 R75/15, Load Range "D", call Goodyear @ 800-321-2136. They will direct you to your local dealer. Goodyear advised me that the ST 225 R75/15 Load Range D was the only tire that was affected.

 

[D. Showan]

DRR-24V,



Right now I have little dinky 205's. From where I am 225's would be a improvement of about 200 extra lbs. capacity per tire I think. My camper has a GVW that says about 8000lbs. But when I look at the brand new 2001 Jayco 265RK's at the dealer the GVW has been upped I think about 1000lb's and they now come with 225's. It appears to be the exact same trailer



Thanks, Dave S.

 

[BCFAST]

Goodyear Marathons

These tires have 10-foot pole marks all over them!! I went thru gobs of them... . I finally decided that even though Goodyear was replacing them for almost nothing, it wasnt worth it... I deem them, like every other tire Goodyear makes (with tread) as crap. Please do yourself a service and stay away from them. I have had good luck with the Carlisles, by the way. But you ARE on the right track: get load range E!! and the bigger, the better... remember that the smaller diameter tires have more revs per mile... and that = heat!

 

[D. Showan]

BCFAST,



Sounds like good advice. I can't go to big or the tires will hit the shocks I put on (they really help smooth out the ride) Thanks

 

[Shooter]

D. Showan: you should have replaced the tires in 97. Tires are only good for 4-5 years then the rubber and fabric deteriorate.

You might try having them replaced at a Good Year store as they have a recall on them.



The GY Marithons have served me well the last 25k miles aka 12mo. . I keep all the tires aired to max when towing and have not lost a trailer tire to anything and truck tires to any thing except road hazards in the last 20 yrs. I have never lost a trailer tire while towing. Pinched a few sidewalls on curbs But use the spair for those occasions. Low air pressure = heat, excessive heat = failure. I do a walk around every stop and check tire temp with the back of my hand and check tire pressure daily before hitting the road. I may have some premature center wear on the tires but have never lost one to heat. I never run tires that are over 5 years old ( mfg date not date of purchase ). You can check mfg dates by reading the DOT numbers on the tire. High tread does not necessarily mean a safe tire, it must also be a fresh tire.



MY $. 02

 

[D. Showan]

I guess I've been riding on borrowed time, thanks for the help, Dave S.

 

[D. Showan]

I think I know the answer but I'll ask anyway. Anyone ever use Cordovan Load Max tires. I got a price of $75each for 225/75R15 L/R D. I'd rather spend more money for better tires if those are junk, but maybe they aren't????????????????

 

[GAmes]

Those of you that have 16 inch rims and are buying tires might want to consider load range G tires. A few bucks more but a heck of a lot more tire.

 

[Jammar9082]

Carlisle Tires

BCFAST: Who makes the Carlisle Tires? Recently there was a comment on Carlisle Tires being made by Goodyear. I haven't been able to verify that information but was concerned about the tires with all of the recent problems on trucks and trailers.



I was at Sam's on Sat. checking for tires and the only trailer tire that they could offer was a Carlisle and it had to be ordered. I have 6 ply " C" rated tires on now and was looking to upgrade to "D' rated tires. The P225/75R15 "D" tires were $72. 00 each in the "New Trail" series. There were three different tires listed in the catalog; New Trail, Trail and Radial. The sales person couldn't tell me the differences between the three tires. I don't know how this compares with other stores. Is this a reasonable price?