trans temp gauge

[Mike C]

where should i put the sending unit for my trans temp gauge?

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Y2K 2500 4x4 ext. cab 8'bed nerf bars,Linex,xtang cover bug shield, husky liners,every option but leather and cab lights remote starter auto 3. 54 gears
98 grand caravan (for wife) 93 harley davidson fatboy

 

[RonaldLarson]

In the transmission fluid line which runs from the trans to the radiator. This is the point where the hottest and most accurate fluid temps are found, and therefore more indicative of what's going on in the transmission. If your truck does not have a temp sensor fitting in that line, buy the replacement line from Mopar and put it in. I have one, and it's the right thing to do.
Ron

 

[Neal Cassady]

mikec,

ol ron is right, that's the best place to put it. Some guys cut into the line and install a compression fitting with a tee. That will work, seems like it could leak over time. The lines vibrate quite a bit and the tubing thickness isn't that great. I would consider cutting the tubing and brazing on threading fittings. The replacement line goes from the forward line on the transmission, exiting the TC and passes under the transmission and up to the fluid to fluid heat exchanger under the exhaust manifold.

I ordered the line and the replacement fitting, hope to be installing this week if the weather cooperates. Doesn't look like your real far from me, if I get the line installed your welcome to take a look at it. If you want to buy the line and fitting we have a TDR cash account with Musselmans in Catonsville. I ordered mine from Blair, good price, great service, those guys know their parts. Only downside is UPS lost the package and it took ten days to get here. Should set you back around $80. 00 for the line and the fitting either way. I'll let you know how it goes.

Dave D

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2001. 5 QC, LB, 4x4, Auto, 3. 54, Everything but Leather, Bright Silver Metallic, ARE K Series, Diprocal EGT, Boost and transmission Temp in an Autometer Dash Pod, Westin CPS Platinum Step Bars - Black on Stainless

 

[John]

Ditto Ron and Dave's advice. I had mine in my Mag-Hytec trans. pan until the beginning of the year. I too (now) have the Mopar cooler line with the integral temp. sensor port.

Hey Dave, I got mine from Blair too... well, sort of... I got it from Bill Kondolay who got it from Blair. I'll bet he sells more of those replacement cooler lines than anyone else in Canada or the US.

 

[icarus33]

Could someone please post the part number for the Mopar line? Is the fitting port 1/8" NPT?

icarus

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'98. 5, 2500, 4x4, LB, QC, AUTO, 3. 54 rear, Snugtop, Rhinoliner, ISB, non Cummins enhanced ECM, DDIIIa injectors, Transgo Diesel shift kit, KJones TC, Autometer boost, transmission temp, digital pyro, Mag-Hytec diff/transmission cvrs. , Redline lubed.

 

[jackrea]

Help, some where there is a picture on a transmission guage mount in the ash tray, I want to mount my guage there and would like some Email information on the installation. Thank You. Jack

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00, 4x4,ISB,Quad Cab,LWB,Bed Rug,Smitty Built Side Rails, Century Canopy,Westach Combo Gauge, Bill K's VB,TC

 

[SlyBones]

So what is the replacement fitting for? Just called DTT and talked with them. Got the impression I only needed the new line.

Also needed to remove the one way flow valve at the connection at the heat exchanger. There is alreay one in the new line.

$80 and wait 10 days, $96 from DC and will have it tomorrow? Gonna spend the $96 myself.

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1997 2500 4x4, CC, Auto, 3. 54 LSD, 66K, Everything inc Leather, K&N, 4" BD cat-back, otherwise stock, Isspro Gauges(3), 285/75/16 on Alcola's, Canopy, BedLiner, and tons more.

 

[Neal Cassady]

SlyBones,

The new fitting replaces the fitting on the heat exchanger that contains the check ball. I have heard that you can just remove the check ball from the existing fitting and use it. Don't know if that is true or not. The new fitting is only a couple of bucks.

If you are in Washington state you should have the part in a few days if your order it from Blair.

Dave D

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2001. 5 QC, LB, 4x4, Auto, 3. 54, Everything but Leather, Bright Silver Metallic, ARE K Series, Diprocal EGT, Boost and transmission Temp in an Autometer Dash Pod, Westin CPS Platinum Step Bars - Black on Stainless

 

[Mike C]

dave what decides if you have this line already installed in truck? im pretty sure i have an idiot light for trans. where about is seabrook md at ihave never heard of it before.

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Y2K 2500 4x4 ext. cab 8'bed nerf bars,Linex,xtang cover bug shield, husky liners,every option but leather and cab lights remote starter auto 3. 54 gears
98 grand caravan (for wife) 93 harley davidson fatboy

 

[Neal Cassady]

mikec,

I don't think any of the newer trucks have the line already installed. DC switched the location of the trans temp sender from the fitting on the TC out line to somewhere in the pan, on or about the VB I think. All of the newer trucks will disable OD when the fluid temp hits around 250. If you have the snow plow prep group you get a trans temp idiot light in the gauge cluster.

Seabrook is a few miles outside the DC Beltway near route 50.

Dave D

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2001. 5 QC, LB, 4x4, Auto, 3. 54, Everything but Leather, Bright Silver Metallic, ARE K Series, Diprocal EGT, Boost and transmission Temp in an Autometer Dash Pod, Westin CPS Platinum Step Bars - Black on Stainless

 

[illflem]

What do you do if you have a '95 with the output line tap already occupied by the stock temp sender?Is there a place you can relocate the stock sender without cutting the tubing and adding a tee?

 

[Neal Cassady]

Here are the numbers I have:

5011244AA transmission cooler line
0118752 Connector fitting

I think you need to have enough ATF on hand for a complete change when you install the line. Most people drop the pan and change the filter when they install the line as most of the fluid will come out when you remove the line. I have 12 quarts back ordered through the Dodge dealer.

I haven't installed mine yet, looks like the cooler line accepts a 3/8" male NPT fitting. Most temp gauge kits should include bushings for 3/8" and 1/2" male to 1/8 or 1/4 NPT female depending on which sender your kit includes. The plug which ships in the fititng on the cooler line was installed by the same person who installs the oil filters at the factory.

Dave D

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2001. 5 QC, LB, 4x4, Auto, 3. 54, Everything but Leather, Bright Silver Metallic, ARE K Series, Diprocal EGT, Boost and transmission Temp in an Autometer Dash Pod, Westin CPS Platinum Step Bars - Black on Stainless

 

[Neal Cassady]

illflem,

Check out the end of:
https://www.turbodieselregister.com/ubb//Forum3/HTML/002978.html

Dave D

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2001. 5 QC, LB, 4x4, Auto, 3. 54, Everything but Leather, Bright Silver Metallic, ARE K Series, Diprocal EGT, Boost and transmission Temp in an Autometer Dash Pod, Westin CPS Platinum Step Bars - Black on Stainless

 

[Mike C]

hey daved i got the line tou told me to get but dealer said the part number for fitting was wrong can you check number for me i have it as 0118752 thanks

 

[Neal Cassady]

mikec,

That's the part number I have, it is on the receipt that I received from Blairs place, have it in front of me right now. They have an 877 number 877-511-5599. Call and ask for Blair or Larry, maybe they use a special part number, it might not be a standard MOPAR part.

transmission Cooler Line 5011244AA
Connector 0118752

I replaced my cooler line over the weekend, 30 minute job turned into a two hour project.

Dave D

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2001. 5 QC, LB, 4x4, Auto, 3. 54, Everything but Leather, Bright Silver Metallic, ARE K Series, Diprocal EGT, Boost and Autometer transmission Temp(sensor in the line) in an Autometer Dash Pod, ,Westin CPS Platinum Step Bars - Black on Stainless

[This message has been edited by Dave D (edited 03-15-2001). ]

 

[Mike C]

dave should i plan on two hours or did something just go wrong ? should i be aware of anything else? thanks for all your help

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Y2K 2500 4x4 ext. cab 8'bed nerf bars,Linex,xtang cover bug shield, husky liners,every option but leather and cab lights remote starter auto 3. 54 gears
98 grand caravan (for wife) 93 harley davidson fatboy

 

[tmacc]

Hey Dave,
That check valve replacement fitting from Blair is not a std. DC part. Thats why the local dealers can't come up with the part when you give them that #. After I got mine, it looked like a part you could get at Home Depot or a local tractor or equipment supply. Never the less, for the same money that the local guy wanted, it was pretty painless dealing w/ Blair. I got mine in about a week.

I haven't found time to install mine yet. I will do a trans service soon and do the replacement line at the samr time. BTW Mopar-muscle had some good tips on how to do this job. Look up my post concerning the trans line. He responded on that one.

 

[Neal Cassady]

tmacc,

Thanks for the response on that, I had a feeling it wasn't a MOPAR item. It would be easy to go and find one once you have the fitting out of the truck. My factory fitting didn't have a check ball, looks more like a check valve.

mikec,

Seems like it should take 1/2 hour by looking at the job, ended up taking around 2 hours with my father-in-law helping out. He is a retired pipe fitter and at almost 80 years old can still outwork most guys I know.

Some things I learned:

It would be easier to replace the line if you do it when you service the transmission fluid and filter. It is harder to work with ATF dripping on you. My truck only has about 15K on it and I don't have my new transmission pan yet. I didn't want to dump $$$. $$ fluid only to do it again in a few months. IRS refund is going to buy some truck parts including MagHytec pan and Amsoil ATF.

Would be a lot easier to do on a lift.

Draw yourself a picture of the exact routing of the existing line before you remove it. I memorized it and forgot it about two seconds after we took it off. Did it go over and under or under and over?

Whoever welded the tank bung on my heat exchanger should do one more and quit! The bung was welded on an angle facing towards the engine block. No big deal when installing the line at the factory, made it a little more difficult in the driveway.

The guy that installs the oil filters must of been transfered. He installed the check valve on my heat exchanger and must have coated it with 1/2 gallon of pipe dope/Loctite. Had to heat it to remove it. A 1/2" impact wrench may have broke it free, it also may have snapped it off. I am without a compressor at this time. The angle of the bung made this a little difficult as it was hard to get a good angle of attack with the socket/ratchet.

I wish DC would have painted my truck as well as they painted the heat exchanger. The black paint/coating was very thick and everywhere.

The angle of the tubing on the hardline was less than ideal at the transmission end as well as the flex line end. If not for the flex part of the line we would have had to adjust the tubing a little. The hardline at the heat exchanger end pointed towards the frame rail.

We had to install the transmission housing end and the heat exchanger end and then wrestle with the lines to make the hard line/flex line connection.

Pick up 2 quarts of ATF +4 before starting. I lost around 1 1/2 quarts doing the job. Had to buy a gallon of MOPAR ATF +4 at the nearest dealer for $26. 00, they didn't have any quarts.

Clean up the area around the heat exchanger fitting, side of the oil pan and frame rail before starting.

Have towels and hand cleaner ready if you are going to do the job without letting the transmission drain.

Dave D

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2001. 5 QC, LB, 4x4, Auto, 3. 54, Everything but Leather, Bright Silver Metallic, ARE K Series, Diprocal EGT, Boost and Autometer transmission Temp(sensor in the line) in an Autometer Dash Pod, ,Westin CPS Platinum Step Bars - Black on Stainless

[This message has been edited by Dave D (edited 03-16-2001). ]