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Well, we found a truck. A buddie of mine was looking for his 3rd CTD. We found one in New Hampshire. Get this: its a 2001, Quad-Cab, Short Bed, 5-speed, 4X4, Blue. for $14,500. Not too bad in my opinion.



Anyways, we are going to be traveling from Southeastern Indiana, basically from Cincinnati, Ohio to Newington, New Hampshire.



While watching the news this morning, I heard of a tanker exploding on..... I-90... I think they said. Does anyone have any suggestions on what route would be better than any other. I am not familiar with anything out there on the east coast. Here is what I got when I searched mapquest:



Directions per mapquest





Thanks for all your suggestions!!!!



I will try to steal the camera (that I bought) away from my girlfriend long enough to take some pictures of the truck and mabye our trip.
 
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The tanker explosion was in southern CT on 95... you won't get close at all to the problem zone.



IMHO - your best route would be... .



80-East (all the way until right around Scranton, PA... )

81-North

84-East

North on the Taconic Parkway (cars/non-dually trucks only... and watch out for DEER!)

East on the Mass Turnpike

North on 495

North on 95



Newington is close to Portsmouth... which is right along 95...



BTW: The truck sounds like a good deal - I hope it's in one piece... that's a pretty low price. I can run a Carfax report on it if you want me to... drop me an email if interested.



Matt
 
Matt is correct on the best route around the Ct mess.

All the traffic into New England will be shifted north and it is causing MAJOR issues.

Stay as far north as possible.

Jay
 
So, you think this problem is goign to add considerable time to our trip. Thats ok, as long as I am back for work on Monday morning.



Thanks for your suggestions guys!!!
 
Actually, the route that I gave would allow you to completely avoid CT. :cool:



If you're towing something you can't take the Taconic... they don't allow trailers or trucks with duallies.



It's Monday morning... how did the trip go?



Matt
 
Trip Synopsus

The trip went well. We left from Versailles, IN at about 5:30p. m. on Friday evening. Made our way to New Hampshire. Arrived at approximately 11:30 a. m. at the dealership (Portsmouth Chevrolet).



Looked the truck over, and it looks as follows: very nice paint on the overall, back quarter passenger side has been painted, and can see the scratches in the body filler under the paint, tailgate has been repainted; paint very thick; Dodge and 4X4 stickers were taped off so as not to have to purchase new stickers, dent in the back of the cab above the rear window, new tie rod ends, ball joints, track bar, overload springs, goose neck hitch removed, couple of little dents, couple of little scratches.



Dealer Experience: VERY POOR, Dealer was aware that we were driving a vehicle out to trade in, dealer asked what it was, (92 Cavalier, with 200K, dent in passenger front fender), when general manager came out to appraise car he walked around it and asked who the owner was, my friend spoke up, general manager tells my friend that he was unaware of the trade until we drove up, he assumed that we were flying out, this is untrue, the dealer had the VIN of the car we were driving on Friday before 5:00 p. m. , he then proceeds to tell us that what we have is of no value to him (Ok, yea, its not a real valuable piece of machinery, but we just drove it 1100 miles, and got 30 mpg, and the trade had already been agreed upon the night before) and that he could not take it, we could leave it there, but he would have to charge us to "dispose of it"; well, this didn't sit well with us, we ended up telling him that his truck had been misrepresented, the salesman told us that the truck had all factory paint, and never had any body work done to it, also he went further to tell us that there were only 2 dents or "dings" as he called them on the truck, well, he failed to mention the huge dent in the cab above the rear window where a 5th wheel had been jackknifed into it. Regardless after the general manager walked off from us, and we followed him into the packed showroom, we made a scene, and a couple got up and left the dealership, stating that they "just could not trade here". We ended up getting $200 for the ole` Cavalier, and we drove home in our "new" 2001 Quad Cab 2500 short bed, 5-speed, Diesel truck. It was a good weekend!!!



Thanks to all who suggested routes, we did in fact take the Tackonak parkway on the way up, it was beautiful, but did cost us about 100 miles, but, we both decided it was worth it, we took a different way home.







Synopsis of how we liked the drive home in it: It has a severe case of "dead pedal", it is a slug below 1550 rpm when under a load, you can hold it to the floor and it does nothing, you then wait till it hits either 1550 if you are below it, or 2150 if you are above 1550 for it to have "full power". The steering wheel was not straightened with the installation of the tie rod ends, the seat is the most uncomfortable piece of $&!*, it is a non electric seat. And it gets 15 mpg at 80mph. Not too bad for a stock truck, we like it, and will make a nice addition to the "fleet"





I guess we don't learn from our mistakes, I bought a truck on ebay on Friday night, and will be heading out to Milwaukee on Friday evening to pick it up!!!! this one is a 12V!!!! I have never owned a 12V.







AHHH the adventures in our CTD's... ... ... I LOVE THEM!!!!!!
 
Man, your adventure was interesting to say the least.



I could write a short novel about my recent truck purchasing fiasco. :-laf



In my experience, using the Taconic instead of taking 84 from MA all the way through to NY... takes about the same amount of time. You're right on the distance, though... . it is more distance... but there's never any traffic to speak of on the Taconic... at least in my experience.



Avoiding Hartford is NEVER a bad thing.



I'm glad you had a happy ending to the story... making a scene at the very least will always make other folks in the dealership think twice about who they are doing business with.



Matt
 
I wish I had one good thing to say about the Taconic..... well it is better than the Palisades Parkway..... that is about it!
 
Here you go - I just got done typing it all up. Enjoy!



Here's part one:

"This whole fiasco started when I found a very nice truck out in Idaho. It was a ’96 2500 club-cab, 4x4, NV-4500, etc. I really liked this one because it had the EXACT same color scheme as my ’94, was reasonably priced and had pretty low miles.



I called the dealership that had the truck and they told me all about it. After I hung up with them, I applied for a loan online. I was approved for the loan in less than 5 minutes so I immediately called back and the salesman told me that the truck was sold. I was not only upset I was worried that I had just been approved for a loan and had a blank check coming in the mail overnight. I frantically started looking for trucks – since I didn’t know how long the check was good for. I couldn’t find anything. I called the company who I financed through and they assured me that the check was good for 45 days and if I didn’t use it…no big deal.



The next day after looking darn near all day at trucks online…I finally found the truck. It didn’t have a price, color or much of any other info other than the VIN and other basic info. I immediately recognized it as being the elusive 1998 Quad-Cab 12-valve with an NV-4500. My jaw dropped and I was on the phone post haste. The salesman confirmed my suspicions that it was in fact a 12-valve/Quad-Cab/NV-4500 truck. About my only question was the color. He replied that it was a ‘lighter blue’…. I was growing more excited by the second.



After I hung up the phone with the salesman, I quickly ran a Carfax report on the VIN and it came up clean. I mulled it over for about 10 seconds and called the salesman back and put a deposit on it with a credit card. I wasn’t about to let this truck get away from me. My mind was somewhat at ease – I had a more perfect truck than I ever thought possible…but I had to wait until the weekend to go look at it. Or did I? :D



Friday morning comes and the check arrives late. I told my manager that I’d be in late so that I could sign for the overnight envelope. I looked up directions to the dealership and thought I could make it there in time to look at the truck before the sun went down. I called my manager from the road and left a voicemail stating that I’d be taking the day off. I drove as if I was going to see a long lost friend I hadn’t seen in years…basically, I was flying low. At one point going down the interstate I passed a state trooper who was positioned on the other side of the highway. He pulled out of his post when I went by…so I let off and let traffic pass me for a few miles. That turned out to be a waste of time since he didn’t end up cutting across the median to come after me.



I arrived at the small town where the dealership was only to have driven right past the place. I ended up at a restaurant/bar loaded with locals. Just imagine a bunch of locals hanging out when a guy driving a VW Beetle comes in with a pencil and paper asking for directions. The barkeep was friendly and explained that the place was just up the street. She was about the only person in the bar that wasn’t looking at me as if I had a lobster on my head.



I rushed out of the restaurant and headed up the street about a ¼ mile to the dealership. When I pulled up all I saw was ‘Intense Blue’ and I tried to contain my excitement – you know how it is…it’s never good to let the salesman know how much you like a truck. He knew who I was from our phone conversations and handed me the keys. I looked it over for about 45 minutes and couldn’t really find any flaws that would prevent me from buying it. During this time I noticed another salesman giving my VW a ‘once-over’ as if he assumed I was trading it in. He gave me a few lines of BS about how his mother wants a yellow Beetle…blah, blah, blah. About all I did was smile and nod while he spewed out an incredible amount of verbal manure.



Now it was test drive time. I turned the key and it fired right off…just like it should. Under the hood, there were no vibrations or audible abnormalities, etc. – so I shut the hood and got behind the wheel. It drove great. I got it up to temperature and went through the gears with my right foot planted on the floor. It still performed very well with no visible smoke, etc. By the time the test drive was over, I knew it was time to go back and negotiate.



The asking price was very slightly above NADA. I only managed to talk them down a little bit. They knew they had me right where they wanted me. I had just driven 300 miles to look at the truck of my dreams and didn’t want to go home empty handed. We came to an agreement on the price and signed the papers.



Knowing that the loan I had applied for was for ‘x dollars’ and the final price of the truck was ‘x + y’ dollars…I had to put a small amount on my credit card. No big deal…only this dealership didn’t have a credit card machine. The salesman had to drive me down the street to a motel that was owned by the dealership’s proprietor. When we arrived at the motel…I instantly felt like I was part of a production crew shooting an episode of “COPS”. This place was a landfill. The salesman had to knock on 3 doors until he finally found the manager of this fine establishment. I patiently waited outdoors and hoped that I wasn’t about to become a victim of identity theft or endure bodily harm from armed thugs.



The salesman finally found the manager and gained access to the credit card machine. He tried to open the door to the office, but couldn’t find the right key and quickly became angry. I was then lead into the office via the manager’s apartment. Various scenes from the TV series “COPS” that were going through my head were instantly made real. I could not believe the filth and complete squalor this person was living in. To top it all off, the manager had a little poodle. Great, now I’m having thoughts right out of the motion picture “Silence of the Lambs”. Thankfully, the card swiping, approval and receipt printing process went smooth as glass. I signed it quickly – again hoping that I wasn’t the latest victim of identity theft. Once that transaction was complete…the salesman gave me my receipt, we waded through the trash and I wiped my feet on the way out while trying to subdue the full body ‘chill’ that was imminent.



Back at the dealership – now I have to find a trailer to yank the VW back home. The proprietor of the dealership had a friend of a friend who had a connection for a trailer for me to use. After a ½ hour or so, that deal feel through so now we had to find a U-Haul. The nearest U-Haul that had a trailer was about 35 miles north. The salesman assured me that it was a quick trip and the place is ‘…right off the highway. ’ I gathered up my directions, cell phone and what was left of my sanity and headed out with my newly issued temporary plate. Five minutes into the trip I realized that I left the bill of sale at the dealership. Oh well, I’m not going back now…the show must go on. I drove carefully as to avoid any interaction with the local authorities and followed the directions I was given.



I quickly realized that the directions were wrong. Very wrong. I stopped at an auto parts store and got directions from a nice gentleman after hearing him say “…Oh, you’re on the wrong end of town…”. Soon I was headed on my way yet again. I even cooperatively developed a crude hand-drawn map to help guide me to the U-Haul.



His directions were wrong. So I had to stop again for directions, this time at a gas station. I noticed that the cashier was a teen-aged guy with “MATT” clearly labeled on his name tag. I knew I had to be in good company…heck we shared the same first name. He was clueless about any U-Haul places in the area. It was clear to my why he didn’t know of any such place. He wasn’t quite at the age when he would have to go rent a carpet cleaner in a desperate attempt to clean up the remains from a party. I left that gas station and drove to the next one which was about 2 blocks away.



The two female cashiers tried their best to be helpful, but couldn’t think of where the U-Haul place was. I then got some help from the hero of the day. There was a female customer that was waiting in line behind me while I was asking directions. She knew that the U-Haul place was inside of a hardware store…AND she knew the name of the place. The female cashier then proceeded to give me her version of how to get to the hardware store. I listened to her very detailed route for about 5 minutes and then had to stop her to explain that I’m not familiar with the area and will have a hard time finding my destination based on her directions that included very obscure and inconspicuous landmarks. The female customer came through with very clear directions and said that the original directions I had from the salesman were “…WAY off!” Gee, you think so?!



I bolted out of that second gas station and fired off my ‘new truck’ in route to fetch a trailer. It was then that the low fuel light/alarm went off. Great, now I’m low on fuel and running late to a hardware store that is closing in less than a ½ hour. The directions this time were flawless…it really was “…right of the highway. ” even though this was an entirely different highway than I was originally told. The hardware store had a nicely lit sign and I could see that they were still open.



End of part one - stay tuned for part two...
 
Here's part two:



The folks inside knew I was coming and were surprised at how long it took to only go 35 miles. 1. 5 hours later I had made it to the U-Haul and was going through the process of renting a trailer. The folks at that hardware store could not have been nicer or more helpful if they tried – this was a very welcome experience after a LONG day. I also noticed that the kid responsible for the U-Haul paperwork had a nametag that was clearly labeled “MATT”. I thought that was kinda odd…two clerks both named “MATT”…maybe I should rethink my career.



The seemingly endless amount of paperwork required to rent a trailer came down to the point where they needed to know about the tow vehicle. I said with pride that it was a 1998 Dodge heavy ¾-ton with a Cummins turbo diesel. The kid taking my information said: “Wow, that ought to tow just fine. ” My only reply I could muster was: “I hope so. ” Next came the part where they need to know about the registration of the tow vehicle. Uh-oh…I have a temporary tag and no bill of sale – what do I do now? Aww heck, I’ve made it this far I’m not about to give up now. I went outside, looked at the paper tag plastered to the rear window and came back in and repeated the information to the kid. He entered it into ‘the system’ and continued processing my order.



At this point the owner of the hardware store had come back from installing the ball onto the tongue – both of which I had to buy since I didn’t have one behind the seat of this truck yet. We then went outside and fitted the tongue into the receiver and I instantly recalled the moment earlier in the afternoon when I noticed that the receiver hitch was cracked – just like the TSB I read explained. What the heck, I’ll probably be good…it’s not like I’m hooked to a 10,000lb. trailer or anything.



The hardware store owner never said anything about the truck not having a ‘real’ license plate and he helped me hitch up, plug in the lights and made sure they were operational. After I thanked him and his employees profusely for everything they helped me with…I was now headed on my way with a trailer in tow. Oh yeah – I still need fuel. Luckily I there was a place that had diesel just by the highway. It was my ‘new truck’s’ first tank of fuel. I felt like a proud father watching his son or daughter take their first steps.



After topping off the tank, I headed back to the dealership to fetch the VW. The trip went without incident. I arrived at the dealership and positioned the trailer under the ample light provided by high-pressure sodium lamps. After putting the VW on the trailer I noticed that the salesman I had dealt with was walking into the dealership well after normal hours of operation. Man, did I luck out…my bill of sale was still inside on his desk. I went inside to retrieve it and said my ‘thank yous and goodbyes’. Now the long journey home with the VW in tow was ahead of me.



My new truck hauled that trailer with ease – it seemed almost like it was happier towing than if it was unloaded. About a ½ hour into the trip home I’m tooling down the highway in my truck listening to some tunes and I spot a deer running along the highway. I communicated with the deer through telepathy and threatened brutal torture if he ran out in front of me. It worked because he headed away from the highway and more importantly – away from my new truck.



The remainder of the trip went without any issues – except when I went down a few hills. Now I see why people love exhaust brakes so much. I pulled up close to home around 1:30AM and did some quick math. I left home on Friday around 11:30AM…arrived at the dealership…looked at the truck…drove it…went on wild goose/trailer chase…drove back to the dealership…. and finally ended up at home at 1:30AM Saturday morning. I was tired, hungry and glad that we (the truck, trailer, VW and I…) made it back in one piece. "



That's all I have to say about that. :-laf



Matt
 
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