Tree question for illflem?

[Sled Puller]

Seeing how you are an orchard dude, I assume you do some grafting?

Has anyone tried to graft slow growing oak or cherry onto fast growing poplar?

Just wondering.

Gene

 

[Okie-Go]

Illflem,if I ever get to Washington I want to hit you up for some apples so the wifey can make a pie. I like eating them also. Some of the best apples I had came from Washington. I changed a tire on his truck in Okla. when I worked at a tire shop. I tried to pay him but he said he wouldn't miss the dozen or so he gave me.

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[Cooker]

Even though here in Michigan we are a big apple growing state, I agree the best apples I've ever had came from out west, Oregon to be exact.

Gene, I've worked at a tree nursery (we grow trees for Landscape use) for the past five years, and even though we don't graft our own either, I'd have to agree with Illflem and say it won't work very well.

Just curious why you ask this question. What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Maybe I can help you in some other way.

 

[illflem]

Gene,don't think it would work. The trees have to be of the same family,apples and pears won't graft over with each other. Peaches,apricots,nectarines and plums are of the same family and can be grafted to each other. You may be able to graft one type of oak onto another faster growing oak though.

I don't do my own grafting,but know how, I hire an expert who guarantees the grafts will take or he redoes them the next year. Will be doing 5,000 grafts this spring,changing Golden Delicious over to Granny Smith.

 

[illflem]

Think he's looking for a high value lumber tree that grows like a weed,right Gene?
You can be sure that someone else has thought of this and it doesn't work.

 

[Sled Puller]

The internet has showed me anything I think of, someone already has done it!
I think one reason the Oak is better IS because it takes a long time to grow.
No wine before its time eh?
I have about 20 apple trees outside my door that I have neglected the last fews years. They are in need of a pruning bad.
Grandpa grafted several about 10 years ago. It always amazed me that they did not rot and die.

Just wondering, thats all.
Gene

 

[Cooker]

You know what is funny about Oaks. We usually plant them as a 3'-6' whip, and you are right they do take a bit more time to grow than many of the other trees, but they are a pain in the a** to get to grow straight. We stake them, tie metal rods to them, and any thing else we can do to get them pointed in the right direction. It's funny how Mom Natures larger Oaks always seem to stand up nice and straight.

 

[Koa Man]

Trees will have a tendency to grow straight and tall when surrounded by other trees. The faster a tree grows, the less dense and weaker the wood is. Grain pattern is also very plain on a fast growing tree, hence no real value for wood working.

 

[WOWZY]

That's true Koa, I watched a show on TLC about how much stronger the trees were 100yrs. ago than they are now. Seems the deeper and densely the forest is, the slower the trees grow which have tighter and more numerous rings.