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This is freakin hilarious!

DieselPuter said:
As a proffessional auto repossessor I have taken over a thousand cars and trucks from the driveway, in front of the house, grocery store, at work..... where ever, It's not that hard



If you think you are going to hear a proffessional in the middle take your truck before its too late you are mistaken, I don't know how many times I have heard "If I would have heard you I would have shot you". A pro is going to quick and silient. Your best defense is a SIMPLE kill switch on your truck. I hook mine up in my FASS and have the switch hidden somewhere on my truck, its really simple, no switch... ... no fuel



Trust me guys you are not going to hear a pro and think you are going to run out and catch him... ... ... . never going to happen... ... get a kill switch... ... . a couple of $$ and an hour of your time and your truck isnt going anywhere. And, don't trust the Sentry key, I have a tool to re-program the computer to accept my key that I made beforhand. It takes a little time, but again you are not going to hear someone inside your truck in the middle of the night. I have spent hours inside people cars in the driveway in the middle of the night picking the ignition, or re-programming the computer chip key... ... ... .



Jon



I guess the guy who stole Foolkillers truck wasn't a Pro, since he did catch him in the act and ran down to confront him... . too bad he didn't have a weapon. Foolkiller, did you have time to jump in the bed of the truck?
 
Foolkiller, too bad you didn't Kill that Fool!



I had a perfectly restored '54 Chebby 1/2 ton truck stolen in 1991. All I had on it was a steering wheel lock which locked down to the clutch pedal--it was a very poor lock. And I only had liability ins. --no comp. , so I was out all the money, time and love I put into that truck. I Learned my lesson though. And you know what... I recoved from that loss, but the thieving scum who took my truck will never recover from what he did. He is probably dead or in prison by now, while I am healthy, happy and employed. YOU WILL RECOVER FROM THIS!! And who knows, you might even get your truck back. Stranger things have happened.
 
NVR FNSH said:
In CA deadly force would not have been justified and FK would have been charged by the DA.
Check your applicable state law. Here in Texas:

SUBCHAPTER D. PROTECTION OF PROPERTY



§ 9. 41. PROTECTION OF ONE'S OWN PROPERTY.



(a) A person in lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent or terminate the other's trespass on the land or unlawful interference with the property.



(b) A person unlawfully dispossessed of land or tangible, movable property by another is justified in using force against the other when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to reenter the land or recover the property if the actor uses the force immediately or in fresh pursuit after the dispossession and:



(1) the actor reasonably believes the other had no claim of right when he dispossessed the actor; or



(2) the other accomplished the dispossession by using force, threat, or fraud against the actor.



Acts 1973, 63rd Leg. , p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.

Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg. , ch. 900, § 1. 01, eff. Sept. 1,

1994.





§ 9. 42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY.



A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:



(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9. 41; and



(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:



(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or



(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and



(3) he reasonably believes that:



(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or



(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.



Acts 1973, 63rd Leg. , p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.

Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg. , ch. 900, § 1. 01, eff. Sept. 1,

1994.





§ 9. 43. PROTECTION OF THIRD PERSON'S PROPERTY.



A person is justified in using force or deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property of a third person if, under the circumstances as he reasonably believes them to be, the actor would be justified under Section 9. 41 or 9. 42 in using force or deadly force to protect his own land or property and:



(1) the actor reasonably believes the unlawful interference constitutes attempted or consummated theft of or criminal mischief to the tangible, movable property; or



(2) the actor reasonably believes that:



(A) the third person has requested his protection of the land or property;



(B) he has a legal duty to protect the third person's land or property; or



(C) the third person whose land or property he uses force or deadly force to protect is the actor's spouse, parent, or child, resides with the actor, or is under the actor's care.



Acts 1973, 63rd Leg. , p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.

Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg. , ch. 900, § 1. 01, eff. Sept. 1,

1994.



Rusty
 
Yes, I'm aware you cited CA law. That's why I said "Check your applicable state law" and went on to cite Texas statutes.



Rusty
 
Got to love Texas. Wish more states would wise up & realize people are tired of being victims of crime & little or nothing gets resolved in our messed up system.
 
Ditto to the CA statements

In fact I have a court date tomorrow morning at 8:30, I had a guy in Stockton pull a gun on me while in the middle of repossessing his car last fall, the DA is hitting him with 5 felonies. And that was just for pointing it at me, he said he thought I was stealing it. sure... .



Thats what you get in CA for trying to protect your own property, 5 felonies... ...



I have "stolen" thousands of cars, trucks, and SUV's in neighborhoods just like yours over the years, just get a simple kill switch on your fuel pump / FASS and there is a 99% chance that even if a pro tries to take it they will give up and leave... ... ...
 
DieselPuter said:
In fact I have a court date tomorrow morning at 8:30, I had a guy in Stockton pull a gun on me while in the middle of repossessing his car last fall, the DA is hitting him with 5 felonies. And that was just for pointing it at me, he said he thought I was stealing it. sure... .



Thats what you get in CA for trying to protect your own property, 5 felonies... ...



I have "stolen" thousands of cars, trucks, and SUV's in neighborhoods just like yours over the years, just get a simple kill switch on your fuel pump / FASS and there is a 99% chance that even if a pro tries to take it they will give up and leave... ... ...



I have some friends in the repo business in detroit area. They typicaly don't mess around with starting it at the location they found it. They just hook, drag it to a safe location, then eitehr secure it, or prep for driving it.



So, kill swiches are pointless. :) But theives won't have such a rig setup, so you do have a good point about a kill switch at the same time.
 
If I were working in Detroit I think I would want to go as fast as possibile... . ha ha ha



Little safer here, my only point is that you can talk about how you would catch a thief taking your car 'till you are blue in the face, but the reality is that you will be sound asleep while some a-hole is driving your car down the street. I prove this theory every night and have for years... ... ... In fact when I use my truck to take a car, mind you I have a straight pipe and back into a driveway hook up the car and take off, 95% of the time I don't wake anyone up, and we are talking about 2 to 3 minutes of my truck ideling in the driveway and no one comes outside... ... ... .
 
DieselPuter said:
If I were working in Detroit I think I would want to go as fast as possibile... . ha ha ha



Little safer here, my only point is that you can talk about how you would catch a thief taking your car 'till you are blue in the face, but the reality is that you will be sound asleep while some a-hole is driving your car down the street. I prove this theory every night and have for years... ... ... In fact when I use my truck to take a car, mind you I have a straight pipe and back into a driveway hook up the car and take off, 95% of the time I don't wake anyone up, and we are talking about 2 to 3 minutes of my truck ideling in the driveway and no one comes outside... ... ... .



Yeah, these CRD motors do idle very quiet with a striaght pipe even.



Ever drive in a trailer park in the gehtto durning the evening (6-9pm) and watch everyone scatter and then be driving when you pull in with a diesel?
 
DieselPuter, if you are so undetectable, why did you have someone pull a gun on you while you were trying to take their car? Obviously you do get caught.
 
CALIFORNIA LINES:

"During the encounter, I thought I saw him point a gun at me. "

(Shoot through a side window)

"He tried to run me down. "

(Shoot through the front windshield)

"I feared for my life, so I kept shooting until the gun was empty". Honest!
 
I think what DieselPuter is trying to tell us is that he has more experience in taking vehicles than we do. He is sharing that experience and suggeting a kill switch.



Is it really significant if and how many times he got caught? I don;t think so.



My truck was broken into once, the thief simply bashed out my window and took my GPS off the dash. This will not cause a factory alarm to go off. It only takes seconds.



I was stupid once (left my truck unlocked), Fortunately I drew a stupid thief who got in, looked t my CD's and decided that he didn't like country music and left. He didn't take time to feel under the seat for the new GPS.



Anyway, after all that, I suggest an alarm and a cutoff switch.



If I remember correctly DieselPuter in another thread a while ago stated that most folks put the switch in easy to find places, so think carefully where you put it.



Alarms, by nature, can be learned and bypassed, but, thy can help.



Most of all remember that the police are NOT there to prevent theft or help beyond a police report. They are for revenue generation only.
 
Anyone with a 3rd generation truck has a built in fuel kill switch. Unless the thief knows the truck well, it should work. Just open the fuel filter canister drain valve. I do this when I am traveling and parking for the night at an unfamiliar place. The truck won't start with this valve open, all the fuel drains out. Is it a perfect solution? No, but it is a definite deterent.
 
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