Off Roading Trutracs

[CVR222NV]

Decided to test out the Trutracs on the second biggest hill in our neck of the woods. I took a photo from the bottom to give you some perspective but it doesn't really show how steep this hill is. Most trucks get hung up half way up and have created some big whoop dee doos that you can see I drop in to. Just when I thought I was going to bury the truck I turned back into the hole and powered out. Most people take a run at the hill and use power and speed. I crawled up the hill in 4 low and first gear on the G56 AD.

 

[KATOOM]

You cant have your YouTube video's set to private if you want to share them on forums.

 

[CVR222NV]

Okay I'll reset.

 

[KATOOM]

Nice...

 

[Deleted member 995608]

You have Trutracs fr/rr??

 

[Ozymandias]

So do I, awesome setup.

 

[SRay]

Hmm, that sounds like a much better setup than what’s inside my Dana 80.

 

[CVR222NV]

You have Trutracs fr/rr??

Yes, front and rear.

 

[Ozymandias]

Hmm, that sounds like a much better setup than what’s inside my Dana 80.

It is, snd to me the most impressive thing is still that it even works while cornering.
As it diverts torque and not wheel speed - like every other known locker.

 

[CAROLINA CUMMINS]

That's awesome. Not looking to mod my '14 much beyond stock but Truetracs are on my short list. Open diff's suck
On a side note, took it up some very steep and winding gravel game land roads this weekend - probably close to 15% or better in spots. Didn't notice any appreciable tire spin in 4Lo, I'm sure 2wd would have been a different story.

 

[SRay]

Ozymandias: I installed a true trac in my 2002 fx4 off ranger that I had before I bought the dodge.

But I didn’t have the little truck long enough to truly get the feel of what the true trac was capable of.

The limited slip in the Dana 80 really doesn’t perform well even as a nearly new factory setup.

 

[CAROLINA CUMMINS]

I rebuilt the limited slip in my '98, got it a little too tight
It would grab going into turns and pop kinda like a locker(even with extra additive), but you never questioned if both tires were going to turn when you needed them to

 

[Ozymandias]

Ozymandias: I installed a true trac in my 2002 fx4 off ranger that I had before I bought the dodge.

But I didn’t have the little truck long enough to truly get the feel of what the true trac was capable of.

The limited slip in the Dana 80 really doesn’t perform well even as a nearly new factory setup.

Yeah, had the LS in my GC, almost worthless off the road.

The Truetrac in the front Acle helps a lot pulling you up a hill, especially with an empty bed/truck.

 

[SRay]

Carolina Cummins;

A too tight limited slip would have lit a match in my wallet when it comes to replacing tires.

I like my Toyos and I want them to last.

Ozymandias;

I sure would love a true trac up front as well.

I do sled pulling but so far all 4 tires dig holes at the end of the pull.

 

[Ozymandias]

You'll dig them later with 2 of them.
Especially take of will be greatly improved, and gaining speed, you know...

They divert torque by a factor of 1:4, and thats the point, even the slightest loss of traction on one wheel sends the power immediately to the opposite wheel, you dont even recognize that it happens right then.

Did i mention that I'm a fan of Torsen Diffs?

 

[SRay]

Ozymandias;

That’s what my fx4 ranger had. Torsen T2 limited slip.

That one blew up. Split right in half

 

[KATOOM]

Did i mention that I'm a fan of Torsen Diffs?

I was a fan of these carriers back when I first heard about them almost 40 years ago. Back then no one used them and then the military put them in the Humvee.

 

[Ozymandias]

Ozymandias;

That’s what my fx4 ranger had. Torsen T2 limited slip.

That one blew up. Split right in half

I know, everything can fail.
But the Torsen doesn't fail more or less then any other design - more less thinking back to my Granny's LSD.

Even some early AAM Torsens Split, some years ago they showed up here in the Forum.
But lately it was silent, bsd batch seems to be gone.
AAM seems to have improved the design limits.

 

[Ozymandias]

I was a fan of these carriers back when I first heard about them almost 40 years ago. Back then no one used them and then the military put them in the Humvee.

First real appearance on the european Market was in the Audi Quattros back in the 80th and that was a bomb, unstoppable.
Since then every boy knows what a Torsen is.
Later on Subaru did the same and several others followed, over there we have them to be fast and secure on the road.

Remember that Guy?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Röhrl

Back then we all wanted to drive like he was.

 

[CVR222NV]

You'll dig them later with 2 of them.
Especially take of will be greatly improved, and gaining speed, you know...

They divert torque by a factor of 1:4, and thats the point, even the slightest loss of traction on one wheel sends the power immediately to the opposite wheel, you dont even recognize that it happens right then.

Did i mention that I'm a fan of Torsen Diffs?

To give you a simple example of what Ozy describes I was in 2WD and had parked my truck off a two track dirt road which was muddy from recent rains. As I backed on to the road in reverse my drivers side rear wheel dropped into a mud hole and started to spin when the passenger rear wheel immediately locked and literally launched the truck out of the mud hole. What I love about this set up is that it is the best of both worlds. When you don't need it the differential remains open and you have no drivability issues at all even in 4WD. As soon as you loose traction you can feel it lock up and I have noticed no drivability issues when locked. In my video you can see I was doing everything I could to avoid the hole but you can see the truck move sideways as I slipped into the hole. What you don't see is me spinning the steering wheel to the right back into the side of the rut where the passenger front wheel caught and pulled the truck out of the hole. Pretty impressive given the weight of these trucks.