tst box or new smartybox

[1965LONEWOLF]

which is better a tst box or a new smarty box Oo.

 

[JJPage]

If your truck is a 3rd Gen, I do not believe the smarty is available yet. I do love my TST.

 

[1965LONEWOLF]

yes its a 2004. 5 325/600 , but i heard they are coming out ? what besides the tst box have you done to your truck ?

 

[JJPage]

It is in my signature, but basically just the TST/EZ stack. Last year at Diesel Thunder in Spokane TST 4/4, EZ 2 it dynoed 439hp, 860tq. Since then I have upgraded my transmission so I can turn the boxes higher this year. Still have to be careful as I am still running the stock turbo.

 

[robertyoke]

tst has a new box on the way with pressure, duration and timing. no ez stack needed.

plus it has the turbo timer built in and adjustable timing.

-robert

 

[Tomeygun]

which is better a tst box or a new smarty box Oo.

For now the TST is the better of the two for the obvious reason of the smarty is not out yet...



BUT, when the Smarty is out... I will have both and will most likely stack them together. Then I can adjust with the TST...



BTW, the TST/EZ stack is good for 500+ hp all day long. .

 

[1965LONEWOLF]

i haven t heard about the new box fron tst , when is it comong out and where can i get it and where can i get more info about that ?

 

[Regcabguy]

3rd gen. Smarty

After experiencing the enhanced driveability,decent power increase(over and above my EZ) and fuel saver setting,I'd wait a little while. If Marco's claim of no "imprint" is true,you will not be your own warranty station if driveability problems occur.

 

[BigDan]

Better how????



Power will be the TST with 160HP+ and Smarty at 55HP Maybe less.



Get both

 

[robertyoke]

i haven t heard about the new box fron tst , when is it comong out and where can i get it and where can i get more info about that ?

you will have to call tst, that is how I found out! they are making a new box with more input/outputs and new harness to make it work. no release date yet!

-robert

 

[CStockton]

I plan to get the Smarty when it becomes available and then stack it with the TST.

 

[1965LONEWOLF]

You Won T Have To If You Get The Reflash , Or So I Ve Been Told , It Ll Add Timing To The Box

 

[Mark1si]

Called TST today and the current Powermax CR R-49 can be flashed with the adjustable timing

 

[Bob4x4]

Better how????



Power will be the TST with 160HP+ and Smarty at 55HP Maybe less.



Get both

The 3rd Gen smarty will not be limited to EZ type power . Totally diferent fuel systems. The Ecm controls fuel pressure,duration and timing on the common rails,not so on the 2nd gens where the Vp-44 limits total fueling available with its own piggy backed fuel control module.

The 3rd gen smarty should be a very exciting option when it become available.



Bob

 

[BigDan]

The 3rd Gen smarty will not be limited to EZ type power . Totally diferent fuel systems. The Ecm controls fuel pressure,duration and timing on the common rails,not so on the 2nd gens where the Vp-44 limits total fueling available with its own piggy backed fuel control module.

The 3rd gen smarty should be a very exciting option when it become available.



Bob

How did you find this out????



Did you talk to Marco directly, who promised more then 60hp????



BTW the EZ for the totally different fuel system from the cp3 is still only 60hp... .



We all hope for more then 60 but where did you come with your statement?????

 

[1965LONEWOLF]

I Didn T State That In My Thread , Some One Else Did , I Was Trying To Find Out How Much Horsepower Will Be On The Smarty Tuners For The 2004. 5 325/600 Motor

 

[Marco]

We all hope for more then 60 but where did you come with your statement?????

That's what I've said in a different thread:



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Any other info you could tell us Bob? Does it disable torque management? Will it be like the 2nd gen Smarty in that it will be aimed more toward lower horsepower gains, but huge drivability gains?





That's a good question! Smarty will deal with the torque management, no doubt! Lower horsepower gains? I DON'T THINK SO!



See, the second gen Smarty squeezes out everything possible from the VP without "tapping the wire". The Hp limit is the VP not Smarty.



Things are somewhat different with the common rail system. Much more power can be gained than with a VP... .

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Helps?



Marco

 

[1965LONEWOLF]

So Marco What Will The New Smarty Get For Horsepower And Torq Numbers On The New Smartys Coming Out For The 2004. 5 325/600 Motor ?

 

[Bob4x4]

How did you find this out????



Did you talk to Marco directly, who promised more then 60hp????



BTW the EZ for the totally different fuel system from the cp3 is still only 60hp... .



We all hope for more then 60 but where did you come with your statement?????

The Ez does not modify the ECM maps Be patient... ... ... good things come to those that wait.



Bob

 

[1965LONEWOLF]

some how i keep getting email from you and marco 's , i haven t said one thing on how much power they will make , i m trying to find that out myself