turning up my pump today. few questions first!

[Forrest Nearing]

That is not exactly true and will limit a LOT of useful information if we all go by that logic. Opposing view points are very important as a balance. IMO, if you only look at the how and not get feedback on the possible consequences you don't have enough info to make an informed decision. Choose to factor in the dissenting opinions or not, but don't deny yourself or others the info.



Mix testosterone with diesel and it is highly flammable. :-laf



Taking mysteryman's post in context of an opinion, there is nothing wrong with it. It could have been worded differently but there are few of us that can lay claim to ALWAYS using the correct tone.



Time to let this go and move on as Tippin' so aptly pointed out.

good post... I should have worded my original reply differently



"highly opinionated" were the exact words the school counselor used



but... is it really opinion when you're right!?

 

[Jgolden]

OK, Pretty interesting stuff. My 5. 9 first gen, a 160, is in a vehicle that weighs 12,000 lb. It has/had the same config as the Dodge ram deal. To me the chassis builder took the easy, cheap way out. The available power has been increased. It still meets the air quality regs that apply.



Before making some changes,(unchoking it with a turbo upgrade) smoke was a problem, now there is none visable, except under the coldest start situation. Seems like a good thing.



If as was mentioned in an early post, the Govt. has plans to retroactivly raise the standards then we are all out of luck in more ways than one. Cold, hungry, and in the dark, waiting for the monthly bus to come.



A smart man once said somthing like this:



"The reasonable man adapts to the will of society.

The unreasonable man tries to get society to adapt to his way of thinking.

Therefore, all progress comes from unreasonable people. "



To me the TDR value is progress. Lots of rule benders, and boat rockers. Take what you want and leave the rest. Welcome to any engineer that will post the warning signs.

Thanks

 

[Paychk]

OK, Pretty interesting stuff. My 5. 9 first gen, a 160, is in a vehicle that weighs 12,000 lb. It has/had the same config as the Dodge ram deal. To me the chassis builder took the easy, cheap way out. The available power has been increased. It still meets the air quality regs that apply.

An interesting note is when the "B" was first installed it was "detuned" this is because it is a medium duty engine installed in a light duty application. The reason the frame/suspension wasn't beefed up was; Chrysler was just coming out of bankruptcy and didn't have the coin to do the engineering... Cummins did that.

 

[BHerring]

Is there a link or FAQ that tells me how to change the spring? like the link from Genos explaining how to adj the pump. Finally what does this spring do?

Thanks
Brad

 

[Tippin Spotted Cow]

It's a stiffer spring to get higher rpms out of your motor. Stock, the Cummins winds out at 2700 and has very little power anywhere near that. The spring lets the pump fuel up to 3200 and plenty more power when you get up there... . as well as across the entire rpm band. Do a search on "366 spring" in the forums. (The "366" comes from the last 3 digits in the Bosch part number for the different springs you can buy. The one you want ends in "366") You should be able to find plenty on it. Pastor Bob made a post thats now in the First Gen FAQ forum, right at the top, for how to install it.



In light of the conversation at hand, go here https://www.turbodieselregister.com...993/196177-governor-spring-pandora-s-box.html Thats my own personal experience with what broke when I put the spring in. Keep in mind I had done a lot of other things to the motor before the spring, and so I hear it's more tame of an upgrade when its done without the supporting upgrades. But all in all, that will spell out a little bit of what COULD happen.

 

[BHerring]

TPC,

thanks for the info. Here is my sitsuation. I dont tow much, I use the ole truck as a daily drive and haul some stuff. I would like a bit more power so I can **** off the peps you cut right in front of me on the highway. anyways, I was reading how to adj the ve pump and I was thinking about doing these adj. :



low manifold adj

Full load fuel delivery

Full power adj.

Idle adj (if needed)



the adj I dont think I will do is the AFC Star wheel, I dont know if I want to get that deep into the pump.



does this sound good, now if I get the 366 spring, then I will repalce the spring, but not adj the star wheel...



I am looking for inputs and comments,



thanks

brad

 

[JLEONARD]

AFC Star wheel, I dont know if I want to get that deep into the pump

That ain't deep into the pump just so you know. It is an easy adjustment that you will most likely want to make after you putz with the other stuff.

We can help walk you thru that when the time comes.

 

[BHerring]

JLeonard,

Sounds good to me... thanks

 

[Tippin Spotted Cow]

The spring is actually deeper into the pump than the AFC wheel. All in the same area is the AFC wheel, the fuel pin, the nylon washer, and topped all off with the cover that the smoke screw sits in. All these should follow the max fuel scew adjustment. They are basically fine tuning to the mass increase that the max fuel screw gives. Doing them alone, you probably won't see much of a difference. All these are pretty simple with some basic tools.



Adjusting the idle screw requires a little patience and some steady hands, but thats about it. I'm fueling so much I actually pulled my idle screw out entirely when I put the 366 spring in. Just remember, you have the potential to pump a lot of fuel through with all these tweaks so watch your egts.