Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel Fuel???

[DHerzog]

I understand that the new ULSD fuel is already available in some places. I have read as much as I can fins and it seems that the change will be pretty transparent to the customer, in terms of performance...



However, what about cost? I have read that the cost will be minimal (whatever that means) or up to $. 50 a gallon more.



I have also read that there may be a shortage of ULSD this summer, which will, of course, translate to $3 a gallon or more... .



Is anyone really in the know?? I am thinking of trading trucks and I may be lookiing at a gasser..... help

 

[cj hall]

ulsd

Hello dherzog

Don't trade off for a gasser

your best bet for the 3. 00 + per gallon is ( GASOLINE PRICES WILL FOLLOW )

1 = drive less

2 = drive slower

3 = use your brain when starting from a stop light (no wot starts)

4= try differnt fuels (bio,blending,used veg oil, new veg oil, used motor oil , kerosine,jet fuel,whatever works)

we all must think about this hard

5 = taller tires will get you better mileage



I have been running used veg oil for about 8 months some times as much as 100% blend fuel as low as 20% it cost me around 75 cents a gallon to make this (yes it takes time but what the heck its better than giving all your money to a oil company, right)



use the internet for the info you need yes you will find bad info but a lot of good info . Also this site has a lot of good on it

(look at the msds sheets for anything that goes in your tank this is great info )

(I am not going to let the oil companys run my life and drain my wallet)

( remember the diesel engine was made to run on veg oil !!!!! )



cj hall

 

[SHobbs]

DHerzog,



The Charles Rivers Associates/Baker and O’Brien (CRA/BOB) study done for the American Petroleum Institute (API) estimated a shortfall of 320,000 barrels per day when the regulation is introduced in 2006.



All dispenser pumps must be labeled based on U. S Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) guidelines and indicate the sulfur level and designation of the fuel. For example, any dispenser with S500 (500 ppm of sulfur) diesel fuel must declare that the fuel is not suitable for fueling model year 2007 and later vehicles.

All on-highway heavy-duty diesel vehicles manufactured in model year 2007 and later will be required to use S15 (ULSD) - See FAQ "Why is S15 (ULSD) required?" These vehicles will be forbidden to use diesel fuel with sulfur content greater than 15 ppm (parts per million). Some 2007 light-duty and passenger car vehicles will also require S15 (ULSD).



Vehicles not specifically designed for use with S15 (ULSD) may use either S15 (ULSD) or S500 (500 ppm) diesel.



Model Year 2007 diesel engines will be required to use high-efficiency catalytic exhaust emission control devises (or comparably effective technology).

On-highway diesel fuel sulfur levels be < 15ppm starting in June 2006.



We are not sure whether the transition to S15 (ULSD) in 2006 will affect fuel system elastomers (e. g. , O-rings). Any change will depend on the o-ring material and age, as well as the change in seal swell characteristics of the particular fuel being used, relative to the fuel the vehicle has been using. Experience in transitioning to S500 (500 ppm) in 1993 suggests end-users should be proactive. Specifically, maintenance records should be reviewed to ensure that fuel system elastomer seals have been changed out at recommended intervals with recommended materials.



In general, the processing required to reduce sulfur to 15 ppm also reduces the aromatics content and density of diesel fuel, resulting in a reduction in energy content (BTU/gal).

The expected reduction in energy content is on the order of 1% and may affect fuel mileage.





Makes me glad I am burning B100, filled up the other day for $2. 35/gal. Sometimes it's higher than #2 but I don't mind it at all due to my money staying at home.

 

[DHerzog]

SHobbs



Thanks for the informed reply... I would absolutely buy boidiesel if it were available, but the closest place that sells it is 80-100 miles from where I live...



There was a station that sold B@, but they went broke, I guess... anyway, my Cummins ran perfectly fine on it and I did pay a bit more.



Don't know where this is all going and no one seems to know for sure...



I can't believe the government is allowing or mandating things that will upset the economy and interfere with day to day living... . all because the oil comapnies have not made enough money yet..... :-{} :-{}

 

[SHobbs]

DHerzog,



What really gets me is here in Ft Worth there is a utility company called Atmos energy. They distribute natural gas for basically the entire area. They have hundreds of fleet vehicles that run on gasoline and not natural gas. The state wants to crack down on my truck and has no intention of telling Atmos that from now on they will purchase vehicles that will run on natural gas.



All this talk about air quality and the big companies get to keep right on polluting. They could run as many vehicles on natural gas and also offer their emloyees the same thing. The employees could fill up right where they work. Maybe get them some incentives to buy vehicles that are nade for natural gas as well.



It's not just the oil companies that get to run free, big corporations contribute tons of money to professional thieves (politicians) to get their way as well.