United Airlines Incident - Twitter One-Liners..

[jhenderson]

Very well said. While no reasonable human being will deny the sad state of affairs when it comes to air travel today, there's plenty of blame to be shared in this instance.

 

[BIGNASTY]

The only question is if the jerk's injuries were directly from his actions or if security over did it. From the clip I saw it appeared when he finally let go he flew out of the seat and smashed his face in the armrest across the isle. If that is the case, tough luck, its called karma. If the security purposely bashed his face after they got him free, then they should pay for his medical expenses. In either case HE was the one to cause the escalation of the situation to physical confrontation. It disgusts me how we have become a society of children who want to do whatever we want, whenever we want to. No respect for authority, not a thought about how our actions will affect those around us, not a care about what we've agreed to contractually, we just want to do what we want.

As is the case with any questioning of authority, simply comply and if you feel you've been wronged document everything and fight it through the system. What did this ahole think was going to happen? Did he think his squealing and whining would make security give up and go away? No common sense now a days. Sure a jury might give him money (it is part of what is wrong with our society today, that people deserve gross amounts of money because of their own stupidity), but the guy was in the wrong.

Is the bumping policy a bad policy, you bet. That doesn't make the guy any less in the wrong. And now comes all the political second guessers to grandstand for public (Chicago city council, etc). Disgusting.

Sorry the guy's a Jurk? I'm afraid that if I had been that particular Jurk they would have had to do the samething to this Jurk. Had he once got out of his seat peacefully & then said something they would have told him to f off. Corporate America sucks even if their only purpose for existence is you & serving people like you.

 

[Killgore]

Fifty-three years ago while flying standby in uniform, a full-pay passenger showed up late after loading, and the airlines sent an agent aboard to make room for him. The stewardess tapped me on the shoulder and told me to stand in the galley and not say a thing. She told the agent the vacant seat belonged to her. From Baltimore to Tampa, I flew, she stood and I'll always remember her kindness.

- Ed

 

[BIGNASTY]

Fifty-three years ago while flying standby in uniform, a full-pay passenger showed up late after loading, and the airlines sent an agent aboard to make room for him. The stewardess tapped me on the shoulder and told me to stand in the galley and not say a thing. She told the agent the vacant seat belonged to her. From Baltimore to Tampa, I flew, she stood and I'll always remember her kindness.

- Ed

That's why I always paid 2/3 reserved

 

[Killgore]

I only had $31 to my name. Surely you remember those days when the military was so over-paid.

 

[Jim W]

The only question is if the jerk's injuries were directly from his actions or if security over did it. From the clip I saw it appeared when he finally let go he flew out of the seat and smashed his face in the armrest across the isle. If that is the case, tough luck, its called karma. If the security purposely bashed his face after they got him free, then they should pay for his medical expenses. In either case HE was the one to cause the escalation of the situation to physical confrontation. It disgusts me how we have become a society of children who want to do whatever we want, whenever we want to. No respect for authority, not a thought about how our actions will affect those around us, not a care about what we've agreed to contractually, we just want to do what we want.

As is the case with any questioning of authority, simply comply and if you feel you've been wronged document everything and fight it through the system. What did this ahole think was going to happen? Did he think his squealing and whining would make security give up and go away? No common sense now a days. Sure a jury might give him money (it is part of what is wrong with our society today, that people deserve gross amounts of money because of their own stupidity), but the guy was in the wrong.

Is the bumping policy a bad policy, you bet. That doesn't make the guy any less in the wrong. And now comes all the political second guessers to grandstand for public (Chicago city council, etc). Disgusting.

Will the jerk as you called him was a medical doctor (69 years old) who had medical patients, he had to attend to on the next day. I would not have left either, and I never gave up my seat for over booking. The Chicago Aviation authority has stated publicly that the gentleman who where working for them at the time should not have been wearing Chicago Police badging since they are not Chicago police officers. This is why all three have been suspended pending further review! And they had no right on enforce the United policy of ejected passengers who where not a safety threat to the flight.

Also I have flown for work my entire career of 40 years when over booking occurred and they want passengers to volunteer for other flights. This was always done outside of the plane in the boarding area where this should have been done. Not once the passenger has bordered and in his seat. United Airlines was wrong and has publicly admitted in their latest news briefing.

 

[Killgore]

I suspect this faux paux will cost them dearly. And, it is another reason why, when I must fly, I book on Southwest. I remember years ago when I use to listen to G. Gordon Liddy on talk radio; he said that if your destination was within five hours drive time, drive don't fly.

- Ed

 

[BoeingDiesel]

The problem with SLF (self loading freight) is that you never know who is boarding and what bag of problems they are bringing with them. From what I have read the doctor was a dirtbag that had his license suspended for prescribing narcotics for sex. Now there is an outstanding representative for the medical community…Right? I don’t know that the force used on him was necessary but he drew the line in the sand and you nor I will win in challenging law enforcement under those circumstances. I think we all will agree that the over booking process needs to be revamped and perhaps this incident will cause the folks at the top of the food chain to do something about it, but keep in mind, dollars of revenue per mile- per seat will play heavily in the process. Expect to pay more.

 

[brods]

Will the jerk as you called him was a medical doctor (69 years old) who had medical patients, he had to attend to on the next day. I would not have left either, and I never gave up my seat for over booking. The Chicago Aviation authority has stated publicly that the gentleman who where working for them at the time should not have been wearing Chicago Police badging since they are not Chicago police officers. This is why all three have been suspended pending further review! And they had no right on enforce the United policy of ejected passengers who where not a safety threat to the flight.

Also I have flown for work my entire career of 40 years when over booking occurred and they want passengers to volunteer for other flights. This was always done outside of the plane in the boarding area where this should have been done. Not once the passenger has bordered and in his seat. United Airlines was wrong and has publicly admitted in their latest news briefing.

Unless it was life or death, his being a doctor is about as relevant to the situation as is the fact he lost his license to practice for 10 years due to illegally prescribing painkillers and even trading sex for painkillers.

The issue of who had the authority to do what is a good question, but the contract we all agree to says we may have to give up our seat. That is that. He needed to give up his seat and had no grounds to remain on the plane. Sure it sucks, but again, we agree to abide to the terms of the contract when we buy the tickets.

I avoid flying as much as possible anymore, but I did just fly back from LA last week and the flight was overbooked. As you suggest, they asked well before boarding for volunteers to give up their seats for vouchers. I assume they reached their goal as the flight went off without a hitch. Over the years I do not recall ever seeing anyone having to get off the plane after they were seated, but it may have happened if the person complied without drama.

I disagree with overbooking in principal. I strongly disagree that airline personnel should be able to bump paying customers. Even though I don’t agree with those policies, I would honor the contract I agreed to and begrudgingly get off the plane. We all have a choice. We can act like spoiled children when things don’t work out in our favor or we can suck it up and stand by the agreements we make. It really is as simple as that.

 

[BIGNASTY]

I only had $31 to my name. Surely you remember those days when the military was so over-paid.

I think we figured it out our pay was something like $.36 per hour of course that was 24/7 XXXXing in High Cotton

 

[BIGNASTY]

The problem with SLF (self loading freight) is that you never know who is boarding and what bag of problems they are bringing with them. From what I have read the doctor was a dirtbag that had his license suspended for prescribing narcotics for sex. Now there is an outstanding representative for the medical community…Right? I don’t know that the force used on him was necessary but he drew the line in the sand and you nor I will win in challenging law enforcement under those circumstances. I think we all will agree that the over booking process needs to be revamped and perhaps this incident will cause the folks at the top of the food chain to do something about it, but keep in mind, dollars of revenue per mile- per seat will play heavily in the process. Expect to pay more.

XXXX bag or not he was checked in sitting in a seat that they let him board. I've seen several videos and he didn't get nasty until they TOUCHED HIM, That's when it became assault.

People think that they can just grab hold of you for no apparent reason? Sorry it doesn't work that way. I've been thrown out of my share of Dives & was going but the instant they touched me

It turns into SELF DEFENSE

Now for the drugs & sex we used a different terminology

I & I

Intoxication & Intercourse

 

[Tractorat]

Fifty-three years ago while flying standby in uniform, a full-pay passenger showed up late after loading, and the airlines sent an agent aboard to make room for him. The stewardess tapped me on the shoulder and told me to stand in the galley and not say a thing. She told the agent the vacant seat belonged to her. From Baltimore to Tampa, I flew, she stood and I'll always remember her kindness.

In about mid 1969, not long after I came back from vietnam, I was flying on a maybe half to 3/4 full flight in uniform. Next to me was a playboy bunny. On her other side was her traveling body guard. I was pretty intimidated and didnt have the sense to even start up a conversation. I was able to drift off to sleep. When I woke up a while later, the playboy bunny had fallen asleep. With her head on my shoulder !!!!! Needless to say, I didnt wake her up. But when she did, we got along quite well.

 

[Killgore]

Over-booking and over-scheduling are the same thing. I worked for years for ready-mix concrete companies that had as their policy to either over-schedule or try to deliver concrete on time. Of course this directly affected the yards/hour delivered, utilization of equipment/personnel, and production efficiency, to directly affect the P&L. It was so prevalent in the industry that computer dispatching programs were available to allow the operator to dial-in the percentage of over-booking. I directly heard the president of one of these companies state that if he didn't hear from at least 10% of our customers daily, complaining of poor service he was disappointed. I also worked for a company where if the owner heard of poor service the dispatcher would have his *** handed to him.

Note the difference: president verses owner. That particular president now works in the food processing industry, and the owner(?), well he retired several years ago as a multi-millionaire. My point being, Herb Kelleher would come out of retirement and have a plate full of ***** for breakfast if someone with Southwest pulled that stunt. United? Just business as usual!

- Ed

 

[Killgore]

$.36/hour? I think I was one of the few that jumped up and down when we steamed into a combat zone and could start drawing that extra $100/month.