Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) using a little pedal to start the truck question

[turbo2fab]

My '96 had low idle problems to the point that it would stall when I had my 10k 5er on and I would let off the pedal quickly. Really bad when you are trying to stop for a light or a moron. My truck only takes a second to start with either idle setting, warm or cold, with no pedal.

 

[Dfuruness]

Both of my trucks start with no pedal. Like everyone has said, if the timing is right it should fire right up...

 

[BenjaminAbraham]

fist gens have a ksd that advaces the timming thats why the start right up

 

[Joe G.]

Rotary pumps like the VE used in the '89 - '93 trucks start instantly. Inline pumps like the P7100 don't. It's not a problem to use a little pedal to start these things. Unlike later trucks the computer does not help with starting. These relics are all mechanical. The idle stop wears a little bit so as that happens a truck that would start with no pedal will need a little pedal. It's really not a problem. If you use some pedal to start, then you can get away with lower idle. If the idle gets low so that you have stalling problems then adjust the idle screw.

 

[BenjaminAbraham]

vary true joe, I was just trying to point out to everyone why the 1st gens start right up.

 

[Joe G.]

I don't know the details of why, but most of the rotary pumps I have been around start right up. Except one of course. The Xcello pump I had on a Buda marine diesel was something else. You needed to pray a little bit and then threaten it some to get it to start. After that it was ok. Another Buda I had (replaced the first one) had a Bosche inline pump just like ours except it was four cylinders (made in 1944) would always start, but it took some cranking to get it to do it.

 

[Grumpy John 4x4]

Idle

I keep mine at + or minus at 1000 RPMS starts right up!

 

[DieselDoghouse]

The way I see it - I'll be 50 this May and I need a little extry pedal most mornings to fire! 'Course I'm sure there's more than a little extra lash in the gears of MY fuel rack that factor in. As long as my truck lights before I'm owrrying about a warm starter and it keeps running even in minus temps I'll be happy!!

 

[12V Ford]

Also, if you have gsk in the pump, if you don't have exactly the same clicks on each stud, you'll have to use the pedal to start right away, or let it crank about 2 or 3 turns without pedal to start.

I had 1 click more than the other side and didn't know why I had to use the pedal until I was in there adjusting them and discovered it. Starts right up now.

 

[KCraft]

overflow valve causes hard starting. mine is set at 650rpms. in the summer i run about 500rpms. fires off with ease. timing will help as well.

 

[Harlanjr]

Joe, was that Buda in a fishing boat? My Grand father told me about one he and my great uncle had there in Eureka in their boat. My uncle did some work on it. But then it would run but a bit rough. He could not figure it out, but would not allow my grandfather to work on it. Grandpa, snuck on board one Sat. morning and figured out two of the injector lines were backward. It fired up and ran smooth after that. LOL If you have been working on diesels around Eureka and Arcata long you might know him or of him. Orville Roady.

 

[Joe G.]

I didn't work on diesels as a job. My work was on my boats and helping others with their boats. The Buda was out of a small US Navy boat. It was surplus from WWII. There were quite a few of them in the small fish boats. A lot of the ones a bit larger than mine used a surplus GMC 6/71. I don't recognize the name.

 

[Bulldog440]

I had the same problem. I thought maybe it was the starter relay or the selonoid.

But I decided to take it to a good diesel shop and he disagreed. He was right.

He adjusted the pump timing and adjusted the valves, which were way out, and

now it starts instantly.

Just for reference my truck is a 96 3500 5spd 4wd with 140,000

I also have a 92 2whl with 280,000

 

[Chrisw]

mine needs just a touch of petal