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Duramax may run nicely, but like the Ford diesel, I have a feeling there is going to be a much higher repair cost than on a Cummins. I have not looked at the Duramax V-8 up close but if it's like a Ford the mechanic will have quite a bit of time digging away at all the junk just to take a peek at the engine. If you haven't noticed, a lot of manufacturers of diesels have dropped their V-8's and made the straight six engine their main engine. I have an old Ford with a cat 3208 V-8 engine. It's got less than 200,000 miles and boy what a smoker it is! Doesn't burn oil, just smokes like a freight train. Probably didn't do that when it was new. My neighbor has a Mack truck with a straight six and over 400,000 miles and it hardly smokes at all.
The reason I bought a Dodge was for the reliability, simplicity and mileage. It sounds and runs like a good ole' reliable farm tractor. You don't need to burn rubber to haul a load with a farm tractor, and a man would be a fool to want to, burning rubber is not the purpose of a diesel.
What I'm hoping for in the future is that Dodge will eventually put the smaller 4 cylinder Cummins in its trucks. I have a 4 cylinder Cummins in my dozer and it's the torquiest little critter I've ever driven. That same engine in a truck would probably get around 30 mpg and still have enough power to haul about 8,000 pds. or so, and its proven reliability is what I like. If you compare the size of the engine, the 5. 9 straight six or the 3. 9 straight 4 Cummins they put out more power per cubic inch than any other diesel out there, in my opinion.
Have you ever seen a V-8 in a bulldozer or backhoe? There's a good reason they don't use them. And look how much larger in litres they had to build the Duramax and Ford just to get equal or slightly more power than the Cummins. The Cummins (Komatsu) is probably the most widely used diesel in construction equipment. There are, I believe, five or more different manufacturers of construction equipment that use it, including Case, Komatsu, Dresser, and Fiat-Allis, to name a few. As far as Allison Transmissions go, I have a feeling they would also be more expensive to repair than a Dodge transmission.

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Here, here! I picked Dodge/Cummins for a number of reasons (1) Dodge has the coolest looking truck (ever); (2) Cummins is the best and most widely used diesel engine around. The 5. 9 ISB is the standard engine in lots of class A motor homes. (3) I like to perform as much maint on my vehicle as I can. the Cummins is easy to work on. (4) And let's here it for the highest torque/horsepower per liter.

I have friends who mention how quiet other diesels are. Heck, I love the sound of my truck, just like a Harley rider likes the sound of his bike.

So, there's my added two sense.

Wiredawg, Woof!
 
To put it in simple terms, our Cummins 5. 9 has less moving parts than either a Powerstroke or the new DuraMax. To me that equates to less things to fail or break internally within the engine itself.

Reliability and longevity are 2 of the most important reasons to want a diesel in your truck in the first place and Cummins is renowned for both of these qualities.

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2001 Dodge Ram 2500 SLT Quad Cab, 6spd,ETH,4x2,4. 10 Limited Slip, Trailer tow hitch, long bed
 
I too have not looked up close personally at a duramax but I have seen up close pictures and it's safe to say, you could pitch a dime in there and it's NOT going to find it's way down to the pavement. I don't think I would want to even attempt an oil change! From the pics, it looks even more crowded in there than the PSD is in the Ford.
 
i went to the international auto show last week that had a duramax engine bolted to an allison transmission on a stand as a display. the first thing i thought when i looked at it was "@#!$ i'd hate to have to work on that! the transmission was sweet looking! i want one in my truck!
 
Originally posted by Wiredawg:

I have friends who mention how quiet other diesels are. Heck, I love the sound of my truck, just like a Harley rider likes the sound of his bike.

You are sooo right, Wiredog, as far as I am concerned they are both a mechanical symphony. Especially with modified exhaust systems. #ad
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Cummins - 6 connecting rods w/ 7 main bearings. Nobody else can stack up to that.

Over built, and love the noise. Sounds like a diesel should, not like rice krispies and milk.



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