VA v.s Power Edge EZ

[ramfan2]

What is the difference between the Power Edge EZ and the VA? I was told that the Power Edge has a boost module built in, other than that, they are the same.

Has anybody tried both? After I get my TC & VB upgraded, I'm leaning towards one of these.

I would appreciate any comments or recommendations.

Ram On!
Chris

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1998. 5 4x4 Laramie SLT 2500 Quad Cab, AT, Long Box, Loaded Except Leather. Black/Grey,
Matching Totem Canopy, Bed Liner, Diamomd Plate Rails and Tail Gate, Carr Steps, y2k Driving Lights, K&N Air Filter, Magna Flow Muffler (no resonator)Monster Chrome Tip. Auto Meter Sports Comp Boost and Exhaust Temp on A-Pillar. TC & VB next, then... . ????

1998 27ft Nash Trailer. 6K, no problem!

 

[Mopar-muscle]

the EZ added fueling is adjustable as to what boost level it comes in at , the VA is not , the EZ has a boost module , the VA does not , the EZ has 2 connections , VA 1 , if you have a 2001. 5 with void stickers , EZ is usuable , VA is not , the EZ is reported to make more HP than a VA .

[This message has been edited by Mopar-muscle (edited 04-04-2001). ]

 

[BigDaddy]

As far as I can tell, they do the same thing. Both adjust the fueling and ignition timing and I have seen posts claiming as much as an additional 60/70 HP with these boxes.

The Van Aakens box plug’s into the fuel injector pump and the PE-EZ connects to the ECM Data Link, MAP sensor and Boost Elbow. I would say they both monitor the same parameters (Rpm, Timing, Boost, etc. ), they just acquire this data from different sources.

I recently had the opportunity to try both while hooked to a DYNO with my stocker (not for long #ad
) results:
VA: +40HP
PE-EZ: +39
Not bad #ad

I believe that you can run both boxes at the same time for even more HP. IMHO, you cannot go wrong with either #ad


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[This message has been edited by BigDaddy (edited 04-03-2001). ]

 

[Ray Torresdal]

I must preface this by saying that I have never driven the EZ. There was one discussion within the last couple weeks, where someone who had driven both thought that the VA brought the torque on earlier in the RPM band, and his engine was a little noisier with the EZ. I have the VA, and like it a lot. It really improves driveability, having the torque come on at 15-1600 RPM.
Good Luck!

Ray

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01 QC LWB 5 spd, trailer tow pkg, camper pkg

 

[Archive]

V. A. is smooth power. When I drove with the VA it was so smooth and much torquier than stock. Power comes on right off the start, dont even like driving my truck without it plugged in. I bought a boost module from PS. Now all I need is injectors.

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2001 RAM H. O. 6Sp 2500 SLT 4x4 Quad Cab, 4Wheel Disc, 4. 10 Limited Slip, Fog Lights, Muffler removed, Silence Ring Gone, K&N RE-0880, Skyjacker 2. 5 lift Class 2, 7218 Dual steering stabilizers, Custom Pro Fab Trackbar (sweet), EGR Flares (nice fit), Centerline Comet III 16x9. 5 with 305/70R16, Smittybuilt stainless steps, THIS IS NOT A HOBBY, THIS IS AN ADDICTION !!! MAINLINING DIESEL !!!

 

[Diesel Freak]

I just got a Diablo Power Puck. It plugs in like the VA, and if you want you can tweek it with your laptop or PC.

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[ramfan2]

Do either of these cause the check engine light to come on?

I also see there is an old version of the VA and a new version. Is the new one for the HO Cummins?

Chris

 

[tobaccogrower]

i have a 1999 3500 with 4:10 rear. put on banks powerpack, 275 injectors,4 in exhaust ans psychotty air intake. don't know whaT HP AND TORque are but i just ordered the new VA. as soon as it goes on, i'll post my opinion! hope it's a good one for $549. 00(it's on sale from bullydog if you tell them your a tdr member)... . james

 

[BigDaddy]

I concur that the VA does seem to get there a lot quicker than the PE-EZ.

ramfan2,
Neither of these boxes will cause the dreaded "Check Engine" light to come on.

BTW, no need to wait for TC and VB. The stock transmission can take this mild BOMB #ad

 

[John]

I have had both and still like both although, I currently have the DD TTPM (same as the EZ except for custom fueling/timing programs for DD by Edge Products). Both are very good products.

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John Treibel
'98. 5 2500 QC 4x4 Sport, Glasstite Vision II, 285 BFG A/Ts on M/T Challengers, Warn 4X Boards, Mopar fender flares & tow hooks, NW Custom s/s-rubber mud flaps and accs. , Mag-Hytec diff. cover & trans. pan, Edelbrock IAS shocks, Reese Titan V hitch, SPA gauges (3), Dynamat, '00 Sport grille and headlights/PIAA Super White bulbs, PIAA Dual Sport 900 aux. lights, BD exh. brake, Amsoil Dual Remote Bypass, Optima Yellow Tops, DD3s and DD TTPM, Aeroquip AQP braided s/s fuel hoses, Banks High-Ram intake manifold and 14 cm2 turbine housing w/Big Head wastegate actuator, ATS 3-piece exh. man. , Banks 4" dia. s/s exh. sys. , DTT 93% TC, DTT custom tuned VB, BD modified trans. front pump (enhanced by DTT), Air Bulldog induction hood (with NACA ducts), plus MANY other trick modifications

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[Nemies]

If the VA doesn't have a boost module, how does it keep the ECM-read boost level below 20psi while the VA is doing its fueling magic?


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Kees C.
99, 4x4, 2500, 5spd, HD, LSD, SB, QC, Sport, Forest-Green, Cab-Lights
Rhinoliner, toolbox, dual Firestiks

[This message has been edited by Nemies (edited 05-08-2001). ]

 

[Fred Swanson]

Kees, you have to purchase a boost module separately for the VA, that's why the EZ is so attractive, because it has one built in.
Purely for the money, the EZ is the better choice. You don't have to purchase a boost module.

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Fred Swanson
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Canyon State Components, LLC
www.canyonstatecomponents.com


'00 QC,SB,4x4,Auto,3. 54 w/LSD,Trailer Package,Tow Package,DTT's
TC(91%)&VB(80psi),DD2's,EZ,HOT PE,K&N RE-0880,Cummins RED Valve Cover

 

[LSMITH]

Nemies, the VA does not modify the wastegate on the turbo or plug into the map sensor so the wastegate is allowed to dump the boost generated above 20 PSI. When the map sensor sees boost near 20 PSI the computer starts cutting back the fuel trying to maintain no more than 20 PSI. That is why the EZ typically makes a little more power than the VA, it allows fueling to continue at full rate and boost levels over 20 PSI. Add a boost module to a VA and you get full fueling enhancement and more than 20 PSI.

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[Vaughn MacKenzie]

Ramfan 2, the old van Aakens work great on the HO, at least on my HO with RV injectors and PS boost module #ad
After test driving the EZ & vA back to back the vA wins for seamless, more responsive power across entire RPM band (not necessarily more power) and quieter engine operation. EGTs maxed under 1100 with minimal smoke even with RV injectors with both boxes.

Vaughn

[This message has been edited by Vaughn MacKenzie (edited 04-04-2001). ]

 

[Mopar-muscle]

big daddy , your hp comparision is not typical as i believe a boost elbow was not installed along with the EZ to take advantage of higher boost , had that been done you would have seen a higher number with the EZ . also the EZ comes out of the box withthe jumper in the middle setting , meaning i think extra fueling after 10 psi of boost , the VA adds fuel off the git go , thats why it felt and feels stronger on the bottom end . we could try it again if we get together with TMTT and me and the dyno , add the elbow and set it for quicker fueling , that would be a better comparo .

when i get an EZ i'll be getting the DD version as i want timing only function .

 

[Nemies]

Okay, so with a VA+otherwise stock setup, it's not likely I would hit 20psi boost? Even while towing?

And, I keep seeing people talk about the "new" and "old" VA box. Is that in reference to an actual design change, or is this the "new" box for the 2001+, and the "old" is for 2000-?


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Kees C.
99, 4x4, 2500, 5spd, HD, LSD, SB, QC, Sport, Forest-Green, Cab-Lights
Rhinoliner, toolbox, dual Firestiks

[This message has been edited by Nemies (edited 05-08-2001). ]

 

[ramfan2]

Great feedback! I'm still not sure which one I want. Probably couldn't go wrong either way.

If the VA has more power at the lower RMP's, would it mean that it would preform better towing, or just from a dead stop?

Vaughn. Do you have a AT or 6 speed? I would assume that either of these products would preform well with the injector upgrades.

Chris

 

[Pete Peterson]

Vaughn, have you tried both of the VA's? I have been told that the older VA works better on the HO than the new one which is designed for the HO. Not alot of info on the net covering this phenomenom. Maybe I should have kept my old VA when I got this ETH... ... Pete

 

[Challenger-II]

Nemies.....

I asked the very same questions about the old vs new VA. (See my post) Unfortunately, I only had one response. I too would like to get some clarification. How about it guys??

 

[BigDaddy]

Mopar-muscle,

I did forget about the boost elbow and took for granted the jumper settings #ad


For those that are not familiar with the jumper settings you have three choices; less aggressive, standard (factory setting), and most aggressive #ad


Since you will be in the area, we definitely need to get together. Maybe we can get another great deal from Danny at Pruven Performance. I will e-mail you.

I should have the VA by this weekend. How about we try the two together #ad


Joe