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Vortex Valve: Will it work for diesels

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Of course, this is based on the assumption that it works as advertised in gassers. Based on the following article, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't apply to diesel engines. If anything, I would think it is the turbo that would keep it from working. But hey, if it works, 30% is 30%:



http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50852

Hummer sales hum with mileage-boosting device

Detroit-area dealers adding aftermarket product to boost interest in SUVs

Posted: June 30, 2006

1:00 a. m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com





After seeing skyrocketing gas prices throttle their sales, two Detroit-area Hummer dealers have boosted business – and other dealers say they'll follow suit – by adding a controversial aftermarket product to boost fuel efficiency.



As the Wall Street Journal reported this week, the dealerships – Detroit Hummer and Hummer of Novi – are trying to attract customers with a device they call the "Mileage Maximizer," otherwise known as the VortexValve™, which they claim helps the large SUVs get 25 miles per gallon in highway driving. Without the device, a Hummer H3 gets 19 to 20 miles per gallon on the highway, Hummer spokesman Nick Richards told the Journal.



Manufactured by Las Vegas-based Air Synergy Labs Inc. , the VortexValve™ can increase fuel efficiency by up to 30 percent, claims Spencer Robley, the company's chairman and president.



Conceding there's no official verification for his claims, Robley told the Journal his company has sold 120,000 valves in its eight-year history.



The valve works, according to the manufacturer, by increasing the volume of air that makes it into a vehicle's intake manifold, so more oxygen is present during combustion.



Although GM and Hummer officials have not endorsed the aftermarket addition – even saying they may not honor warranties on altered vehicles – the promotion has helped Hummer sales at the two Detroit locations, Gary Krupa, general manager of Hummer of Novi, told the Journal. The dealerships are charging $189. 95 for the milage increaser, and Krupa says a dozen such Hummers have been sold during the promotion's first three weeks.
 
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Send me $100 and I'll mail out a magnet that will boost your gas mileage 50%. Buy two and it will boost gas mileage 100%.



Don't you think GM, Ford, and DC would brag about improved mileage if it were so simple for them to install the device???



Snake oil.
 
picture if you will, the internal workings of the intercooler and the intake grid heater.

now try to convince me how straightening/swirling(whatever gimmic this particular device is trying to peddle) the air is going to effect your mileage... .
 
Sometimes thay may cause a knock in the engine. I removed one which was embedded in the top of piston of a circa 50's Kaiser. I'm sure they must be made of better material now though. :) bg
 
No offence to any that may be using it but the TAG thing that has been bought and installed by some diesel owners in my book kinda the same deal. Comments of IT works but NO improved dyno numbers or mileage numbers cause it works "in the RPM RANGE that a dyno dosen't pick up etc" YEA RIGHT!
 
I was present when the local newspaper did a test on the "Tornado". It was supposed to swirl more air into the combustion chamber, therefore, increasing power & mileage.



They did dyno runs, over & over again, with & without the "Tornado". Each time, the vehicle lost power with the addition of the "Tornado".



I would pay NOT to have it on any of my vehicles.



Joe F. (Buffalo)
 
jwilliams3 said:
:-laf ... . And I thought we had smarter people than that on TDR...



Don't worry. I don't believe it works. I thought my skepticism was obvious in my first statement. What got my attention was that *dealers* were installing the device while manufacturers were threatening to drop the warranty. Kind of an interesting conflict, don't you think? And if the device did work, I would think that the dealer who installed it presale would be obligated to honor the warranty. That would set up an interesting dilemma for the consumer: Risk a shorter engine life for their Hummer in exchange for an increase in fuel economy. Interestingly, that's how I tend to view the boxes and chips people put on their trucks for increased HP--you accept an increase in power in exchange for an increased risk of engine stress and shorter life. Depending on what the consumer is looking for, it may be a worthwhile trade. Likewise, if the Vortex Valve worked, someone who owned a Hummer might accept a tradeoff of increased fuel economy and potential engine damage. Especially if they were leasing the vehicle or didn't plan on keeping if for very long. Maybe I've become my father's Oldsmobile, but I've come to the conclusion that for the most part, stock is best. Vehicles are designed as systems, and changing any part of the equation reverberates down through the rest of the system.
 
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