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Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) New Problem with L/P, filter and VP44

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This is also posted in an existing thread, but buried, and may not get any attention - so let's try this...



Since we've now heard from at least several guys experiencing problems when rapid accelleration, then sudden letting off the pedal is involved - and at least one of those apparently resulting in a VP-44 failure - I have a question that maybe one of the experts can respond to:



We are told the actual timing of fuel flow from the VP-44 is controlled by the ECM thru the fuel solenoids inside the VP-44 (at least I guess that's where they're located). In this scenario, I assume the fuel solenoids function much like the valves in a combustion chamber - and the ECM is essentially the "camshaft" that controls that opening/closing and timing...



BUT, what if the timing or rate of solenoid operation is off - either by faulty programming or other factors that create a situation where the injector pump piston tries to force it's load of fuel out in a normal fashion, but the delivery-side solenoid refuses to open, creating a hydro-lock situation? Is that possible with these pumps, or is there a built-in override outlet fuel path to prevent the certain destruction of the pump that would otherwise occur?



Further, is it possible that some of the add-on boxes we use might aggravate the above scenarion even further - since it seems all the guys so far affected were using power boxes?



Comments? :confused: :confused:
 
Originally posted by Gary - KJ6Q

BUT, what if the timing or rate of solenoid operation is off - either by faulty programming or other factors that create a situation where the injector pump piston tries to force it's load of fuel out in a normal fashion, but the delivery-side solenoid refuses to open, creating a hydro-lock situation? Is that possible with these pumps, or is there a built-in override outlet fuel path to prevent the certain destruction of the pump that would otherwise occur?



Further, is it possible that some of the add-on boxes we use might aggravate the above scenarion even further - since it seems all the guys so far affected were using power boxes?



Comments? :confused: :confused:



First off, I am by no means an expert!



That being said, it is my understanding that iff the fuel delivery solenoid were to stick shut, ALL of the fuel pumped by the VP44 will go to the injector. It is my understanding that when you add a fueling box that taps the VP44 pump wire, you basicly raise the duration that this valve stays shut, not open.



The second solenoid in the pump is used to meter fuel to the

injectors. The solenoid opens the fuel metering valve to allow fuel from

the supply pump to flow into the pumping chamber. Once the pumping chamber

is charged with fuel, the solenoid valve closes. This traps the fuel in

the chamber and allows injection pressure to build. The fuel is routed to

the correct injector by the pump distributor. The distribution port on the

distributor aligns with one of the six outlet ports to distribute fuel to

a given injector. Once the desired amount of fuel has been injected, the

solenoid valve opens, causing the pressure in the pumping chamber to bleed

down, which ends injection. The cycle then begins again for the next

cylinder.
 
HMMmmm - I vaguely remember reading that somewhere - thanks...



SOOoo, in the worse of 2 possible scenarios - the solenoid can stick OPEN, and little, if any, fuel will be routed to the matching cylinder - OR if the solenoid sticks CLOSED, the appropriate cylinder will get the full charge of fuel on that cycle - whether it needs it or not...



Interesting... But in either case, there *shouldn't* be any damage to the mechanical portion of the pump.



I wonder if the solenoids are a replaceable part of the VP-44? Tho' I haven't heard of any failing to date... But again, Bosch hasn't been noted for offering or providing replacement parts for their injection pumps... :rolleyes:
 
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