Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) vp44 class action lawsuit

[c-hawk]

I have 69000 miles on my truck, and i'm in need of a new injection pump. However, i'm sure if i hadn't bombed the truck and run it so hard, the chances of me needing a new pump right now would be much less.



Anyway, this is only my opinion, but i don't think anyone wins with class-action suits but the lawyers. I hope it doesn't happen.



Also just my opinion, but i don't think the vp's are all that bad. We read about quite a few failures on this board, but I'm not convinced it's a huge problem for the general cummins owner.



If something can be broken, this group of people on this board will be the ones to break it... and also the ones to figure out how to make it better. I keep this in mind when i read all these posts about problems, and other things as well.



Later,

Chris

 

[JLittle]

I have talked with 5 people around my region which are farmers who use 24 v diesels, I ask them if they ever used Farm Fuel (red fuel) and most say that they have in their trucks, out of the 5 that I asked non of them have ever had to replace a lift pump or injection pump, 3 of these trucks had over 200,000 miles and the other had over 100,000 miles, all of these were 1 owner trucks and were stock! so I would only think that the red fuel did help? I have been told before the red fuel had more sulfur in it? maybe this helps lubricate? it would seem to me if your making more fuel pressure go thru the injectors that the original pump would really have to work harder to keep up, the only problems that these guys had were 5th gear nut. keep on Trucking!!!

 

[Irontrader]

The only difference with "red" diesel is that a red dye has been added to the fuel. When it is refined it all the same, the red dye isn't added until it is at the transfer station.



I've got a friend who drives a fuel truck for a living. He's told me that the dye is added when the fuel truck is loaded.

 

[jarsong]

Originally posted by Shelby Griggs

I have been told by the head tech at the local Dodge delaer that fuel quality is a huge factor.



SHG

I have watched these threads forever and I really feel this is the most accurate finding. I find no mystery in the fact that MOST of the Rams out there never fail a LP and they run strong almost forever, while at the same time you have people with MULTIPLE failures even with alternate setups and such. I mean really, lets have the statitions jump in here. What are the odds? Sure it's a bad design pulling instread of pushing. I'm talking STOCK trucks here.

jarsong

 

[Tomscreek]

I hope fuel quality does does play a role as I always fill up at the same large truck stop and so far, so good. (63,000 miles). I've changed about 5 fuel filters and figured it was pretty much wasted money because the filters all looked like new and so does the canister each time.

 

[ABarrey]

Going through my second Lift pump replacement at 89,000, first one at 40,000. This time it burned out the Injection pump too. Didn't show any codes for the 10,000 miles that I knew it was bad. Waiting for the parts now and as soon as I get the new VP 44 in I'm going to get the FASS setup installed-not going to wait for the next failure on my own dime.

Andy

 

[jarsong]

Originally posted by ABarrey

Going through my second Lift pump replacement at 89,000, first one at 40,000. This time it burned out the Injection pump too. Didn't show any codes for the 10,000 miles that I knew it was bad. Waiting for the parts now and as soon as I get the new VP 44 in I'm going to get the FASS setup installed-not going to wait for the next failure on my own dime.

Andy

See this is the strange part. 2 LP. So you find yourself lucky enough to get two defective pumps back to back. By no means to I want to cover the LP problem. I just think the odds are there is a 3rd unknown variable here and I think it's Fuel Quality and maint. is it.

jarsong

 

[GFrance]

Originally posted by Irontrader

The only difference with "red" diesel is that a red dye has been added to the fuel. When it is refined it all the same, the red dye isn't added until it is at the transfer station.



I've got a friend who drives a fuel truck for a living. He's told me that the dye is added when the fuel truck is loaded.

Not at all terminals. I load low sulpher dyed in Eugene the dye is injected as I load. I also can load high sulpher dyed diesel at another loading rack that is sent down the pipeline already dyed.

In Portland at Conoco Phillips it is the same. Eventually dyed high sulpher diesel will be phased out. A new diesel which is being used in some areas called Ultra Low Sulpher Diesel will be the enviorment correct diesel. Which will meet all the year 2007 clean air restrictions.

Hope this helps you understand the differences in fuel.



Glenn

 

[BTowler]

There is a difference between #2 and "red" diesel. The red has a higher sulfur content, the #2 is refined more to reduce the sulfur content thus not requiring the dye.