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Where in god's good green earth are the gas prices and diesel going!? 2. 07 at shell in branford ... . REGULAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



CT is at the Highest in the nation as of CNN's report just minutes ago! Yet Nobody wants to investigate?
 
Its call Labor Day Weekend Holiday coming up . It seems like I saw something on the news the other night that they (news people) predicted that it will go back down after the long weekend .
 
This last winter my co-worker made a prediction about the price of gas/diesel. He said that the price will drop down to around $1. 40-$1. 50 (this being when it was around $1. 85 or so... at the time he said that people would be happy to see at that price and it would stay there... well, so far it's true...



I honestly think we'll see $2. 00+ prices everywhere this winter, just they are getting on the price a bit quicker than I thought. Since the "Blackout" and the busted pipeline, they are going to play the "shortage" card (maybe it's true), but either way, we all should have invested into the wonderful oil/fuel companies cause I'm sure they are going to report another 200% (or more) profit this year.



So, what does everyone else think? Will we see $2. 00 plus? Might be a good time to go get some 55 gallon drums to put in the garage...
 
Originally posted by Wayno

Its call Labor Day Weekend Holiday coming up .



Oh yeah without a doubt. If they SLOWLY ramped up the cost it would not call attention to the hikes. That shell station I mentioned before went from 1. 79 to 2. 07 IN THREE SECCONDS



Why Do Gasoline Prices Fluctuate?



Even when crude oil prices are stable, gasoline prices normally fluctuate due to factors such as seasonality and local retail station competition. Additionally, gasoline prices can change rapidly due to crude oil supply disruptions stemming from world events or domestic problems, such as refinery or pipeline outages.



Seasonality in the demand for gasoline - When crude oil prices are stable, retail gasoline prices tend to gradually rise before and during the summer, when people drive more, and decline in the fall and winter, when people drive less. Good weather and vacations cause U. S. summer gasoline demand to average about 6% higher than during the rest of the year. If crude oil prices remain unchanged, gasoline prices would typically increase by 5-6 cents during the summer.



Changes in the cost of crude oil -Events in crude oil markets were a major factor in all but one of the five run-ups in gasoline prices between 1992 and 1997, according to the National Petroleum Council’s study U. S. Petroleum Supply - Inventory Dynamics.



Crude oil prices are determined by worldwide supply and demand, with significant influence by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC). Since it was organized in 1960, OPEC has tried to keep world oil prices at its target level by setting an upper production limit on its members. OPEC has the potential to influence oil prices worldwide because its members possess such a great portion of the world's oil supply, accounting for nearly 40% of the world's production of crude oil and holding about 67% of the world's estimated crude oil reserves.



Rapid gasoline price increases have occurred in response to crude oil shortages caused by, for example, the Arab oil embargo in 1973, the Iranian revolution in 1978, the Iran/Iraq war in 1980, and the Persian Gulf conflict in 1990. The most recent gasoline price increases are due in part to OPEC crude oil production cuts in 1999. In addition, higher demand from a recovering Asian economy caused more competitive bidding for crude oil supplies in the international market and was a contributing factor to an increase in gasoline prices in 1999. OPEC once again cut crude oil production in January 2001 to forestall anticipated excess supply in late Spring.



Product supply/demand imbalances- A continuing economic boom in the United States has led to greater demand for gasoline. If demand rises quickly or supply declines unexpectedly due to refinery production problems or lagging imports, gasoline inventories (stocks) may decline rapidly. When stocks are low and falling, some wholesalers become concerned that supplies may not be adequate over the short term and bid higher for available product. Such was the case in late summer 1997, as a demand surge drained gasoline stocks and prices rose rapidly.



Gasoline may be less expensive in one summer when supplies are plentiful vs. another summer when they are not. These are normal price fluctuations, experienced in all commodity markets. For example, the price of corn is higher than normal just before harvest time because corn inventories are depleted at that time. Prices may remain high after the harvest if a drought occurred during the growing season, thereby limiting the supply of corn. Or prices may decline when a healthy crop is produced.



However, prices of basic energy (gasoline, electricity, natural gas, heating oil) are generally more volatile than prices of other commodities. One reason is that consumers are limited in their ability to substitute between fuels when the price for gasoline, for example, fluctuates. So, while consumers can substitute readily between food products when relative prices shift, most do not have that option in fueling their cars.
 
The gas companies must think the public are complete fools. I left this morning at 7:30 and gas had gone up about 15 cents since yesterday. When I came home just now it had gone up another 10 cents. Thats 25 cents in 24 hours. I know that these stations have not had any gas delivered . My opinion is that it is all a load of manure. A big load at that. The guy from AAA was on the news this morning and said the gas companies just want to increase revenues and there for making it look good for the investors. I think he was the only one speaking the truth. ;)
 
$2. 19 here for regular. We are 75 miles north of San Francisco, About 55 miles from 4 major refineries. We always pay about the max here. Can drive north abot 40 miles and get the same gas, from the same refineries, cheaper. Diesel has stayed about the same, is about $1. 85.

Stan
 
8/25 @ 1:30 am

State Regular Mid Premium Diesel

Alaska $1. 812 $1. 918 $2. 028 $1. 715

Alabama $1. 570 $1. 679 $1. 728 $1. 496

Arkansas $1. 576 $1. 663 $1. 769 $1. 490

Arizona $1. 966 $2. 051 $2. 169 $1. 757

California $2. 086 $2. 221 $2. 258 $1. 885

Colorado $1. 653 $1. 768 $1. 847 $1. 619

Connecticut $1. 697 $1. 842 $1. 890 $1. 699

District of Columbia $1. 671 $1. 779 $1. 832 $1. 783

Delaware $1. 598 $1. 698 $1. 772 $1. 614

Florida $1. 635 $1. 771 $1. 804 $1. 624

Georgia $1. 523 $1. 637 $1. 710 $1. 435

Hawaii $2. 097 $2. 217 $2. 259 $2. 192

Iowa $1. 592 $1. 676 $1. 757 $1. 531

Idaho $1. 751 $1. 848 $1. 899 $1. 697

Illinois $1. 706 $1. 835 $1. 892 $1. 608

Indiana $1. 669 $1. 796 $1. 846 $1. 495

Kansas $1. 635 $1. 679 $1. 745 $1. 571

Kentucky $1. 625 $1. 742 $1. 821 $1. 459

Louisiana $1. 569 $1. 672 $1. 750 $1. 483

Massachusetts $1. 630 $1. 752 $1. 819 $1. 657

Maryland $1. 615 $1. 717 $1. 761 $1. 603

Maine $1. 626 $1. 754 $1. 803 $1. 577

Michigan $1. 693 $1. 793 $1. 866 $1. 550

Minnesota $1. 668 $1. 735 $1. 780 $1. 538

Missouri $1. 578 $1. 642 $1. 738 $1. 448

Mississippi $1. 565 $1. 650 $1. 724 $1. 442

Montana $1. 716 $1. 789 $1. 876 $1. 632

North Carolina $1. 574 $1. 670 $1. 744 $1. 500

North Dakota $1. 694 $1. 753 $1. 816 $1. 556

Nebraska $1. 636 $1. 672 $1. 719 $1. 555

New Hampshire $1. 591 $1. 723 $1. 784 $1. 574

New Jersey $1. 516 $1. 625 $1. 686 $1. 481

New Mexico $1. 634 $1. 740 $1. 815 $1. 584

Nevada $1. 939 $2. 043 $2. 118 $1. 758

New York $1. 709 $1. 828 $1. 867 $1. 737

Ohio $1. 671 $1. 782 $1. 854 $1. 546

Oklahoma $1. 552 $1. 604 $1. 694 $1. 430

Oregon $1. 920 $2. 026 $2. 057 $1. 792

Pennsylvania $1. 601 $1. 688 $1. 762 $1. 621

Rhode Island $1. 677 $1. 784 $1. 843 $1. 683

South Carolina $1. 499 $1. 593 $1. 670 $1. 448

South Dakota $1. 655 $1. 761 $1. 833 $1. 556

Tennessee $1. 568 $1. 660 $1. 739 $1. 487

Texas $1. 556 $1. 646 $1. 706 $1. 471

Utah $1. 741 $1. 836 $1. 917 $1. 633

Virginia $1. 547 $1. 623 $1. 685 $1. 512

Vermont $1. 584 $1. 704 $1. 779 $1. 650

Washington $1. 893 $1. 961 $2. 058 $1. 820

Wisconsin $1. 717 $1. 783 $1. 866 $1. 600

West Virginia $1. 661 $1. 737 $1. 824 $1. 605

Wyoming $1. 620 $1. 689 $1. 799 $1. 535
 
Thanks TMTT,

That one of the few times I've ever seen Alaska included in a survey. Cept that we can get diesel at the lowest, 1. 559, average 1. 589 to 1. 629, high 1. 729 here in Fairbanks. We are the cheapest in the state as of right now. Those sound like Anchorage prices.

WD
 
I just got back from Tenn, Ark, Okla, Tx, NM, Arz, and into Calif.

Tenn diesel avg $1. 55 hi $ 1. 59 low $ 1. 48

Ark diesel avg $1. 50 hi $ 1. 55 low $ 1. 44

Okla dsl avg $1. 35 hi $ 1. 48 low $ 1. 27

Tx dsl avg $1. 42 hi $ 1. 51 low $ 1. 39

NM dsl avg $1. 53 hi $ 1. 58 low $ 1. 47

Arz dsl avg $1. 60 hi $ 1. 69(near the Cal state line) low $ 1. 48

Cal dsl avg I can`t say, I filled up in Arz for $ 1. 64 and got a call from a friend that reg unleaded is $ 2. 15. Said diesel is rising. :confused: Price hikes are being blamed on the Phoenix broken pipe line:{
 
Originally posted by paccool

$2. 19 here for regular. We are 75 miles north of San Francisco, About 55 miles from 4 major refineries. We always pay about the max here. Can drive north abot 40 miles and get the same gas, from the same refineries, cheaper. Diesel has stayed about the same, is about $1. 85.

Stan





Stan:



can do you one better:



the Shell station at Rockville Rd and I-80 in Fairfield is selling regular at $2. 21 and premium at $2. 51 a gallon and you get to pump it yourself, they did back the diesel price off to $1. 99 a gallon and according to mapquest, this station is less than 20 miles away from the Shell refinery in Martinez, I shopped to find 1. 99 for unleaded for my commuter car today, #2 can be found for 1. 69 here in Sacramento if you take the time to find it... .







big jake



THE FORD GUY Oo. Oo. Oo.
 
I'm not going to complain too much this time around. At least the diesel prices seem to be staying put while the gas jumps 25 cents in two weeks. It wasn't too long ago that diesel was almost as expensive as premium gasoline. They always have excuses for why the prices are all over the place. My biggest beef is that the prices shoot up almost overnight but take weeks or months to drift back down. They definitely have the country by the short hairs...



BTW: just filled (the CTD) up at the Chevron in Cotati for 1. 88 a gallon. It was 1. 73 three weeks ago.
 
ToolMan

I wonder what each state puts into those prices as tax.

I know in Pa its around 48 cents.

Lets see. . 48 x 38 gallons = $18. 24 Geez :--)
 
From what I was told, here in Mass they add about . 45 per gallon. I am not sure how it is divided between the state and feds. But your'e right . 45 x 30 gallons is $13. 50 just in taxes that in my opinion should all be spent on the road and highway system and the associated infrastructure and not thrown into the general fund and wasted. :mad:
 
Funny thing is that tonite I heard they are blaming the blackout for this.



C'mon WIth no power there is no consumption , no way to transfer , AND thta would create a surplus if anything as construction was brought to a halt for a day so that means hey pick up where they left off as if everyone stayed ome for a day.
 
Just got back from Kansas and Oklahoma this morning local prices of gas (regular 87) $1. 97 at the CHEAPIE stations, Diesel I believe is around $1. 85 (?) OKla. diesel was 1. 32 at the J on I-40 and Morgan $1. 04 for off road acouple of blocks away:D :p (thank god for aux tanks) Gas was 1. 499 in Amarillo and diesel was 1. 39 in Querqe
 
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