War on Terrorism? Yea right!

[Scot]

FOA I am not trying to diminish what happened on 9-11 in the slightest. As a firefighter, I lost ~200+ brothers and sisters. Those of you who are not firefighters will never know the bond that unites us, even though we probably have never met each other.



I keep hearing that at last we are going to begin a "War on Terrorism" here and abroad. No terrorist, anywhere in the world will be safe, no where, no how.



Will this extend to our own home grown terrorists who kill and destroy property but have no harsh words spoken against them because the Democrat party/media support them?



They might be your own neighbors.



They belong to organizations like Animal Liberation Front, Earth Liberation Front, PETA, EarthFirst!, Greenpeace, etc, they spike trees, they destroy research facilities, they kill people.



Do you send them 5 bucks a year?



Will the "War on Terrorism" extend "our" terrorists?



Flame away

 

[JEMOORE]

I know of no Democrats nor media that support terrorists. I can assure you most do not.



Be very careful that you do not fall into one of the same type of groups that you speak of. What would be the differance, left or right? The differance is what's right and wrong! Two wrongs do not make it right.

 

[Don M]

Scot,

you are not too far off and this will not be a flame.



The Democrats are generally for a smaller military and the Rebulicans are generally for a larger one. We all know this.

It looks as though certain Executive Orders from our former Pres.

have helped to cripple our intel capability.



Starting the topic of the homegrown terror groups is something I do not even have the time to consider at this time, but rest assured we are on the same page. More members of our Congress are epicenes than I can stomach.

Further, if Pro is the opposite of Con, then what is the opposite of Progress? Just a funny to break up the seriousness of the whole mess.



Don~

 

['956Wheel]

Scot, Do not discount what happened on Tuesday, not only was it the worst terrorist act ever it was on our soil!



Why do you think the arab world and it allies are sure to disconnect from ANY remote involvement, THEY ARE SCARED and rightly so.



Time will tell but I do respectfully disagree with your lack of confidance.



Those other groups are just for making money, throw in the global warming whiners, history proves the earth has gone through the warming cycle before... . money motivates many useless or harmful groups.



Mike

 

[Newf Limo]

Please Note The Difference



Scot, as hard as it may seem at a time like this, try not to forget that while there are supporters in their country, their country does not support the actions of these terrorists. It is alot to swallow, I know. It is good that I am not President because my first reaction is to Nuke them till they glow, shoot them in the dark and let Allah sort 'em out. But the fact is they didn't all do it. Just like not all members, in fact the leaders of PETA, ALF etc. are for or support the acts of terrorism that have been instituted by the subculture of these organizations. Imagine if you will, several counties deciding to privatize law-enforcement, fire fighting and EMS. You and the members of the unions would be pretty P. O'ed and would push hard to bring this to a stop. Now imagine that a few, shall we say, not so stable individuals decided to set up some fires that would wipe out a few of these privateers to show them that they can't handle the job and they should give back the jobs to the counties/cities. I am sure that you would be againsed these actions, be blamed for them, yet be helpless to have prevented them because you don't have control over a few loose cannons. None the less, your group as a whole would be looked upon as a nest of murdering terrorists. How many times have you been wanting to do something, even as simple as walking your dog on the beach but couldn't because you are being held accountable for a few jerks that screwed things up for everyone.

I think the known terrorist groups as a whole on the other-hand should be crushed. in fact, if anyone runs into a website or develops contacts for a privately funded group to go gather terrorists send me the link. I am searching hard but haven't found any yet. I wish I were still enlisted because I feel so damn helpless as a civillian. A blown knee prevents my re-enlistment but 12 years later it is in pretty good shape, enough to swing my foot into some lowlife terrorists &$$.

 

[JEMOORE]

Please don't take this to personal!

Further, if Pro is the opposite of Con, then what is the opposite of Progress? Just a funny to break up the seriousness of the whole mess.



Don~





Could it be a Right Wing Conservative?

 

[Scot]

"I know of no Democrates nor media that support terrorists. I can assure you most do not. "



*Most* do not, hmm?



I guess you missed Hillary kissing Yassar Arafat's wife when Bill had them over for a State dinner. You know, Arafat, the leader of the Palastinian Liberation Organization, the leader of those who were dancing in the streets upon news of the terrorist act upon our soil.



I really need to learn HTML so I can post this stuff.

 

[JEMOORE]

Respect for FELLOW AMERICANS

Be reasonable Scot. I can't speak for all Democrats, neither can you. I wouldn't say all Republicans are Nazis. How about a little respect for all Americans. It basically comes down to good and evil. I think there is a lot more good than evil. I want to stay on the side of good. This sometimes takes some serious thought and looking further than the end of your nose. I am very upset about all that has happened. I have been even more upset by many of the very shallow thoughts that I have been reading from some of my American brothers here. If you take the time to step back and look at the total picture and much of the mentality being expressed here hopfully you will see that this is much of the problem that has taken us to where we are today. We, as a people, must maintain a higher standard and morality than those who would like to see us fall. So far in the past we have. The future remains to be seen. Our very existence as a nation depends on this. Call me a "Bleeding Heart Liberial" if you wish, I do not consider that to be an insult. Just remember you and I are both Americans and are both on the same side. Hope I haven't offended you but this is what happens when we don't show mutual respect for our fellow man of all races and walks of life. Please don't close your mind, think, and think deeply.



If it seems I have directed this only at Scot, I have not. If the shoe fits, wear it.

 

[Scot]

Originally posted by '956Wheel

Scot, Do not discount what happened on Tuesday, not only was it the worst terrorist act ever it was on our soil!



Time will tell but I do respectfully disagree with your lack of confidance.



Those other groups are just for making money, throw in the global warming whiners, history proves the earth has gone through the warming cycle before... . money motivates many useless or harmful groups.



Mike

"I am not trying to diminish what happened on 9-11 in the slightest. " from my original post



Are you saying I lack confidance that we are going to go after our own terrorists? Or???



These groups are also trying to destroy the American way of life, just not through such dramatic means. They too are dangerous.

 

[Scot]

Originally posted by Newf Limo

Please Note The Difference



1 Scot, as hard as it may seem at a time like this, try not to forget that while there are supporters in their country, their country does not support the actions of these terrorists.



2 But the fact is they didn't all do it. Just like not all members, in fact the leaders of PETA, ALF etc. are for or support the acts of terrorism that have been instituted by the subculture of these organizations.



3 Imagine if you will, several counties deciding to privatize law-enforcement, fire fighting and EMS. You and the members of the unions would be pretty P. O'ed and would push hard to bring this to a stop. Now imagine that a few, shall we say, not so stable individuals decided to set up some fires that would wipe out a few of these privateers to show them that they can't handle the job and they should give back the jobs to the counties/cities. I am sure that you would be againsed these actions, be blamed for them, yet be helpless to have prevented them because you don't have control over a few loose cannons. None the less, your group as a whole would be looked upon as a nest of murdering terrorists.



4 How many times have you been wanting to do something, even as simple as walking your dog on the beach but couldn't because you are being held accountable for a few jerks that screwed things up for everyone.



5 I think the known terrorist groups as a whole on the other-hand should be crushed. in fact, if anyone runs into a website or develops contacts for a privately funded group to go gather terrorists send me the link. I am searching hard but haven't found any yet.



6 I wish I were still enlisted because I feel so damn helpless as a civillian. A blown knee prevents my re-enlistment but 12 years later it is in pretty good shape, enough to swing my foot into some lowlife terrorists &$$.

1 I do not remember even mentioning anyone elses country. My post had to do with thise in this country.



2 So it is alright to be a dues paying. card carrying, recruiter to a neo-nazi group or the KKK as long as you do not support all all of their tenets?



3 If I was laid off then I by definition would no longer be a fireman. I would not be associated with ANY TERRORIST GROUP PERIOD. That goes for EarthFirst! or a union who would engage in such illegal actions.



4 We are trading our freedoms for security daily. I am a strict Constitutionalist and enjoy and agree with Walter Williams more than any person I can name.



5 Go into the bowels of the websites of the groups I have named above. There are instruction manuals on how to commit terrorist acts.



6 Thank you for your service to our country.

 

[QRTRHRS]

http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/09/13/world. response/index.html



So many threads going on, not sure where to post this so I put it here.



While we bore the physical and probably most of the personal loss, the blood of many nations has been shed. I am amazed to read down to find even Cuba sending condolenses. Perhaps some of these thoughts are veiled but personnally, I like to think the thoughts are genuine.



The effects of these acts are obviously and rather quickly changing business as usual. With tensions and patriotism running at an all time high, I would think that the liberal media will be left with tail between legs for the forseeable future. Perhaps the majority of Americans who for the most part remain silent while the zealots rant and rave will be motivated to shout them down so to speak.

 

[Scot]

Re: Respect for FELLOW AMERICANS

Originally posted by JEMOORE

Be reasonable Scot.



1 I can't speak for all Democrats, neither can you.



2 I wouldn't say all Republicans are Nazis.



3 How about a little respect for all Americans.



4 It basically comes down to good and evil.



5 I think there is a lot more good than evil.



6 I want to stay on the side of good.



7 This sometimes takes some serious thought and looking further than the end of your nose.



8 I am very upset about all that has happened. I have been even more upset by many of the very shallow thoughts that I have been reading from some of my American brothers here. If you take the time to step back and look at the total picture and much of the mentality being expressed here hopfully you will see that this is much of the problem that has taken us to where we are today.



9 We, as a people, must maintain a higher standard and morality than those who would like to see us fall. So far in the past we have. The future remains to be seen. Our very existence as a nation depends on this.



10 Call me a "Bleeding Heart Liberial" if you wish, I do not consider that to be an insult.



11 Just remember you and I are both Americans and are both on the same side.



12 Hope I haven't offended you but this is what happens when we don't show mutual respect for our fellow man of all races and walks of life. Please don't close your mind, think, and think deeply.



If it seems I have directed this only at Scot, I have not. If the shoe fits, wear it.

1 I do not claim to speak for all of them. My ire is directed at the far left that siezed control of the Democrat party in 1968. Unfortunantly they are now in leadership postitions.



2 No that would be absolutely wrong. The pubees are quite different from the National Socialist Workers Party.



3 I have great respect for Americans. As much as I disagree with the far left, I have to respect their unfailing solidarity with any member of their party regardless of their actions. Also their unfailing solidarity to achieve their agenda regardless of the costs.



4 I agree. That is why I have taken the side I have.



5, 6 Agreed



7 Agreed. Being conservative requires though, not just feelings.



8 Political debates within this country have not caused this terrorist act. Hatred for our way of life has. If anything, what precipitated thios event was the gutting of the military and intelligence. Along with inattention to foreign policy except when it served to get other more damning stories off of the front page.



9 Agreed



10 "If the shoe fits, wear it. "



11 Agreed



12 No offense taken. I am and have thought about this deeply.

 

[Scot]

Re: Please don't take this to personal!

Originally posted by JEMOORE

Further, if Pro is the opposite of Con, then what is the opposite of Progress? Just a funny to break up the seriousness of the whole mess.



Don~





Could it be a Right Wing Conservative?



Hope I haven't offended you but



this is what happens when we don't show mutual respect for our fellow man...

The emoticon shows we are not taking any mutual respect away?



So what is a proservative?

 

[Don M]

Proservative and Conservative both mean the same thing. Both being good of course.





On another note, Poor JEMOORE has not a clue.



Don~

 

[wrk2mtch]

Not trying to start any fights, but I think you guys are missing Scot's point. We have overlooked all terrorists for too long. Although Earth First, Greenpeace and PETA are not anywhere near the level that Osoma bin Laden is at, they are terrorists just the same. After we kill off all of the people even remotely involved with the events on the 11th we should also eliminate the terrorist groups at home.



My $. 02

 

[DGFoster]

And George Bush Sr. Said no new taxes, and George Bush Sr. finished off Sadam too right,no in the 11th hour he ran away just as fast as he could run...

You are either going to have a deficit and a mighty military,or no deficit and a not so strong military,I agree Clinton dropped the ball when it comes to the military,but we had a healthy economy,and I believe we as americans take things for granted and we don't think about it until it hits us in the face like on tuesday. .

 

[JEMOORE]

On another note, Poor JEMOORE has not a clue.



Don, your know I think the same thing about you. I do know right from wrong and I have been around awhile. Sorry, it is evident that I have hurt your feelings.

 

[JEMOORE]

Debate

Scot, I personally do not think this is the time for political debate.

 

[DGFoster]

Don just loves a conflict. .

 

[Don M]

Dodgeboyz,



THE BILL OF RIGHTS, void were prohibited by Democrats.



Don~