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Originally posted by Dodgeboyz

And George Bush Sr. Said no new taxes, and George Bush Sr. finished off Sadam too right,no in the 11th hour he ran away just as fast as he could run...

You are either going to have a deficit and a mighty military,or no deficit and a not so strong military,I agree Clinton dropped the ball when it comes to the military,but we had a healthy economy,and I believe we as americans take things for granted and we don't think about it until it hits us in the face like on tuesday. .



And Bill said "I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewenski. " I get the impression you are shocked that a pol would lie or maybe just a Republican would.



I would like to see the president go up and say, "I have identified these pork barrel projects that need elimination. We will use that money for disaster relief (or military rebuilding. ) Then let the porkers attempt to justify their projects in front of the world instead of just confiscating a few billion here and a few billion there.
 
Re: Debate

Originally posted by JEMOORE

Scot, I personally do not think this is the time for political debate.



Oh but I think it must happen in light of what happened. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. We need to look at the events and actions that made this event possible so maybe we can prevent a repeat or a threepeat. Satan did not finish his work on 11 September 2001.



This will mean identifying individuals, actions and events. Let the chips fall where and on whom they may.
 
JEMOORE,



My feelings are not hurt from your posts. Just so ya know.

I hope yours are not either.



Can we forget the whole thing and roll on? You are not my enemy and you are not clueless.



Don~
 
American Brothers

Don & Scot



No hard or hurt feelings here. ALL our emotions are running high. I understand. Different opinions and ideas are part of, and essential to, keeping our great nation the way our Founding Fathers intended. If there is ever anything I can do for either of you (or anyone reading this) just let me know. We are American brothers.



Jerry E. Moore

Corbin, Kentucky, USA
 
Do Something

Until this conflict is over and I do agree that the ultra-liberal attitude that has prevailed since 1968 has contributed to this enormously, read the following I received today and PARTICPATE:

"Dear Americans,



The last few days have been trying times for all of our

citizens.



We have all been filled with outrage at what we have all

seen, but have not been able to do anything effectual. At

least that is how I have felt. I am sure many of you have

had similar feelings.



That is why I am writing you. Tonight at 7pm Eastern

Standard Time, Americans across the nation, wherever they

are, whether in their homes, their cars, or in a public

place, will stop what they are doing, light a candle, and

hold it aloft. The purpose of this is to remember the

victims of the tragic attack, and also to send a message of

defiance to any enemies of America that we are united

together behind our President, and that we are resolved to

pay any price to see America kept safe.



This a wonderful opportunity for all Americans to come

together, stop, and remember. I would encourage all of you

to do this.



There are many of you on this list. Together we could have

quite an impact by spreading this across the whole nation.

Please forward this message to your friends and family.



I've received many emails from you about the candle lighting

tonight.



Attached is a message I received. Please pass it on.



Keep praying for America, Friends. We have some trying days

ahead of us.



For America,



Bruce Eberle"



John Styer
 
war on terrorist

I just got caught up on reading this post and I have to agree with some of the post. If we're going to go after terrorists and their support structure both abroad and at home, it will get messy.



What should we do about the IRA and the Irish American that funnel millions of dollars to it? What about the protestants that just last week were throwing pipe bombs at little catholic school girls just 'cause they didn't want them walking on their streets?



Waht about the KLM? The basque separatist in Italy? Count less groups in South America? Closer to home in Canada the FLQ used bombs in the past and has threaten to do it again. Does who supported Tim McVeigh? he's the only one who paid for Oklahoma city bombming so far.



Don't get me wrong, I want ALL terrorists DEAD period! Spend the money on troops, weapons, intelligence gathering what ever is needed, raise my taxes if you need to. Give me a call if you need more guys to go after them. But we need to make sure that we go after ALL of then not just the more obvious one or all of this won't mean nothing.



We need more parking space anyway... ... .



My 2cts,



BFC
 
The Oklahoman had this to say:



Oklahoman Editorial:



Domestic Terrorists Must be Stopped



2001-11-05



Catherine Ives was a researcher at Michigan State University in 1999, working on developing disease-resistant crops that could help alleviate starvation in Third World countries. Then, the facility in which she worked was torched, destroying Ives' work.



A group called the Earth Liberation Front claimed responsibility for the fire. Upset with the research because of its association with genetically engineered crops, ELF members shut down Ives' operation through an act of terrorism.



While the resolve of Americans to combat terrorism is currently at a peak, the focus remains on Islamic extremists. Domestic terrorists such as the ELF and the Animal Liberation Front continue to operate with little public notice of their acts of terror.



Richard Berman, executive director of an organization representing restaurant and tavern owners, wrote last week in a USA Today opinion piece that homegrown terrorism has not let up since the awful events of Sept. 11. Rather than admit that their form of terrorism is every bit as odious as that of the Mideast radicals, the environmental and animal rights groups self- righteously cling to the "correctness" of their cause.



"In this age of insanity, you may be branded a terrorist," says an Animal Liberation Front Web page, "but you will one day be remembered as a selfless warrior who dared to fight for what is right. " The words are directed at ALF associates who bomb or burn down research labs, sometimes killing animals in order to "save" them.



If those same words were distributed by Osama bin Laden, righteous indignation would be the reaction. Yet these domestic terrorists carry on with little scrutiny.



"The growing wave of domestic terrorism by animal-rights, anti-corporate and anti-biotech extremists has gone beyond vandalism," Berman wrote. "Property has been destroyed and lives have been put at risk. And Americans are the perpetrators. "



The FBI and other federal law enforcement agencies have their hands full now, giving the domestic terrorists a virtual field day for their lunatic fringe activities. ALF claims to have set fire to a primate research facility just nine days after planes hit the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.



Periodic torchings or bombings of research facilities have been commonplace. The ALF or ELF has claimed responsibility for firebombings at meat companies and a feed mill. The fire at Michigan State University caused about $1 million in damages, Berman wrote.



Because these domestic terrorists have so far managed to avoid killing people, their activities have been largely ignored by the general public. But terrorism is terrorism, and any war on terrorism must include these twisted and unjustifiable attacks.



While not directly engaged in terrorism, groups such as People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals are nevertheless linked to terrorist attacks. For example, in 1992 ALF member Rodney Coronado firebombed a Michigan research facility, a crime he later admitted committing. PETA contributed $42,500 to Coronado's legal defense in 1995 while spending less than $5,000 for animal shelters that year.



Former FBI Director Louis Freeh was outspoken in his contempt for domestic terrorism, but most Americans remain unaware that animal-rights and environmentalist radicals are loose in this society. Similarities between the homegrown terrorists and the men who hijacked four planes on Sept. 11 can be found in their rhetoric and their unfailing belief that no act is too extreme if the cause is "right. "



Arson, property destruction, burglary and theft are "acceptable crimes" in the pursuit of a cause, PETA co-founder Alex Pacheco once said. With such an endorsement of terrorism, it's not out of line to suggest that PETA itself encourages acts of violence.



In an opinion piece that appeared in The Oklahoman on Oct. 24, Nick Nichols, chairman of a crisis management firm in Washington, D. C. , said Americans too often tolerate violence committed by environmental and animal rights terrorists as "stunts" or "pranks. "



"This invites acts of greater violence," Nichols wrote. "Instead, we need to crack down with aggressive prosecution of domestic terrorism against property to protect us from more serious domestic terrorism against our people. "



To paraphrase President Bush after the Sept. 11 attacks, you are either in the battle against terrorism or you are abetting it. Extremist animal and environmental activists have made it clear which side they're on.



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FWI
 
If the goal of a terrorist is to instill terror it seems like the media is right up there with bin Laden. Do we change the Constitutional commandments to eliminate them also?
 
Bad as the other

These organisations by creating this radical faction of extremist have done more to hurt the causes they believe in than help. On the other hand most of us are on the other side of the spectrum. I do not agree that the Democratic party was taken over by extremist,I do think the Republican party launched a giant campaign to gain members at about that time frame. I stand in the middle of the road and have the chance to look at both sides of the road,both are laughable.



Republican,Democrat,Green,socialist,or Pro-Badger. I really don't care. We have a duty in front of us. To protect the homes and people of the United States of America. It is a responsibility we should not take lightly!I do not care what your political,social,or sexual habits are,we are on the same boat,it behooves us not to rock it.
 
Agree we should go after all forms of terrorists (as listed in the start of this post) but believe we won't.



Already the slicing and dicing has started. Listen to GW's speech where he is now starting to categorize: "We will go after all terrorists with a global reach. " I read that as political wiggle room to avoid the freedom fighter vs terrorist debate in even the most atrocious but local issues (I read as outsiders launching attacks within the US).



Peace.
 
Extreme Right Wing does not end at Nazi or KKK.

Quite the opposite.



This thinking was spawned by the media.





Extreme Right Wing ends at the U. S. Constitution. Period.

Gene
 
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