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Welding on Frame OK???

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Hey Folks, I am a retired weldor with enough training to get me in trouble. Each one of you has a valid point. A weld failure can occur as a Catastrophic failure such as an overload, directional loading or a failure over a period of time caused by stress loading and vibration. There is stress corrosion cracking in the Heat Affected Zone, Hydrogen induced cracking by Improperly Shielded or dirty/oily base metals. Improperly placed welds, improper filler metals and improper technique, Lack of fusion. If these new truck frames are formed from HSLA ( High Strength Low Alloy) steels, they have their own weld process! Basic metallurgy can be complicated or simple. Problem is that most hitch and exhaust shop personel cant even spell Metallurgy let alone tell you what it is! :rolleyes: Just because some Jack says they are a weldor and has an establishment with a Shingle out for everyone to see, does not mean they do quality work. A shop with written Weld Procedure Specifications and weldors certified to those procedures would be clue's If I were lookin'. Another concern is the electronics that is the essential control system for your truck. What did they do to protect this investment? If your brain box gives up the ghost in the short term you know d--- good and well they were only after the buck. :mad: I am really sorry to hear about this. #@$%! Hope you fare well. There are those of you out there that build your own trucks from the ground up and have an excellent grasp of what you can get away with and when a mistake is made, you can rectify it, straight away. The average truck owner who needs to take their rig to a shop to get a hitch installed is at the mercy of those that claim to be qualified to do this work. You all need to do your homework before handing the keys to anybody! GregH
 
Good On ya, Bud. The schoolin' doesnt end till someone throws dirt in yer face:D. You gotta start somewhere! GregH



:-laf As a machinist for over 20 years, that was always a big joke. 2-3 out of 10 job applicants were applying for a position as a machinest.
 
:-laf As a machinist for over 20 years, that was always a big joke. 2-3 out of 10 job applicants were applying for a position as a machinest.



Yes Sir, I'll bet they thought "tolerance" was getting along, X,Y,Z, were only the last three letters in the alphabet, a "setup" is what they did to their buddy when they were playin' cards and "blue chips" were used only on special nights at a Las Vegas casino, they actually have to cleanup their machine and their hand definitely does fit around a broom handle:D:D:D:D! Every beginner has their day, I was there once myself:-laf. GregH
 
i am having to start learning the machinist stuff now too. . the new shop i am working in has a cnc x/z axis lathe for turning freight car wheels, along with a manual x/y lathe for doing the axle work. next phase there we get 1 more manual axle lathes, 2 cnc axle lathes and 2 cnc boring machines. . i am glad i don't right now need to know the programing of the machines. just to operate them. . gotta ultrasound test the wheels and mag particle the axles too
 
nick, G-Code programming is a breeze. Trig is a breeze for me, and essential for programming and X-Y-Z motion controller.



I was programming these things back when we used mylar tape to feed the program to the machine ... ... ... ... . graphics? can you say c:\?
 
i am having to start learning the machinist stuff now too. . the new shop i am working in has a cnc x/z axis lathe for turning freight car wheels, along with a manual x/y lathe for doing the axle work. next phase there we get 1 more manual axle lathes, 2 cnc axle lathes and 2 cnc boring machines. . i am glad i don't right now need to know the programing of the machines. just to operate them. . gotta ultrasound test the wheels and mag particle the axles too



Hey Bud, You and JHardwick should start a new thread in the Shop Forum for Machinists/NDT, where the new guys could ask questions from the old pro's? We have several Shop Threads on welding, as an example. . I know there are a lot of professions represented on TDR and sharing of information is a good way to broaden yer horizons. A FRIEND of mine once said that "a student is no better than their teacher". Therefore a wise student learns from as many teachers as possible. There many things that are black and white. The application however, often relies on your training, expertise and common sense. Just a thought Oo. . GregH
 
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