What ar the fastest 1/4 mile et's w/stick?

[Diesel Power]

yeah i wish. but in time we will find out wont we. :-laf

oops---i wasen't supossed to spill the beans yet, huh---sorry :--)

 

[RobertP]

Cant Give Away All My Secrets Too Early :d

 

[Tomeygun]

By the way guys...



I ran my 5-spd last night, best of 15. 5 -- launched in 2nd, Wheel hopping really bad...



Clutch almost gave up :{

 

[BHaner]

I ran a 15. 1 @ 94mph with a screwed up master/slave cyl. I was launching in 3rd gear (very slowly lol) and grinding 1/2 the shifts. After that run I was not able to stage without the truck letting out the clutch on its own! Once I got going I was not able to shift over 1500.



I will take it back to the track some day and see what happens with the new stuff.

 

[jnelson]

Jeff is a farmer from chapman Ranch. His truck is a daily driver. I understand he was at "at one time" running a 5. 9, marine injection pump, twins, and a 5 speed. he used to drive to the races and swap to slicks but I heard he trailers it now after being stuck out of town wth a busted input shaft. There is another truck in corpus thats right on jeffs butt. seen the truck but cant recall the guys name.

 

[JasonCzerak]

By the way guys...



I ran my 5-spd last night, best of 15. 5 -- launched in 2nd, Wheel hopping really bad...



Clutch almost gave up :{

You guys gota be in the low 14's to high 13's with over 500hp.



Reason I say this is the cars I've seen raced on the street and the ones I've raced.



For example, latest race was my buddys 2500, Same truck, except his is a sort box with bully dog stuff, a funky turbo mod, and some fuel mods.



On the highway, 50+ we are DEAD EQUAL. Pre- Confe, we were equal, depends on who got the jump first basicly.



I didn't race last weekend, trying to figure out this ConFE still and get a good launch and not heat it up. . But my buddy did with his stock clutch.



Dispsite the 4 trucks lengths he pulled on the hole shot (with a 10 foot rolling back handycap!!!) againsted a F150 SVT and hte fact the F150 guy spun the tires for 60 feet. They were dead equal. The F150 wasn't gaining or loose ground once they go half way down the street as far as anyone could tell (some were there near the end to judge the finish. .



They pulled all the way up 110. so this is well past a 1/4 mile for these trucks... .



a properly driven SVT F150 should be 13. 8.



I'm assuming the F150 should catch up mid track but mellow out in the end.



I HAVE TO GET TO GROVE CREEK! I want numbers



As for 3rd gear launchs, my buddy (who some day will be a TDR memeber) gets moving fast with the stock clutch, I suppose the key here is RPM, not boost + RPM to not melt the clutch. Using the motors momentium rather then torque in the 60 foot ist he key. Getting the tires to break loose a little as the clutch finally locks helps ease things.

 

[BigDan]

I cant believe you guy's are punishing your daily driven 6 speeds at the track. Ive told you before 6 speeds are not meant to be drag raced. Its just the way there built. Thats why you get chitty times with a 500 or even 600 HP trucks.



There is an amazing about of shock load on the moving parts on a 6 speed truck. Ive had both and an auto is so fast and smooth. With a 6-speed you loose boost between every shift, and slamming gears, 5th gear is a bioch to get into.



Face it its a waste of money to drag race a 6-speed



Ive had both a

02 HO QC, LB 4X4 w/ ez that ran 16. 7

99 QC, SB, 4X4 DTT stock with comp box 14. 7



I know some of you want to try it but I'm warning you its addictive, but just think about how much money and HP you have into your rig to loose a race to a Scion of a gasser up against your 600HP CTD.....

 

[JasonCzerak]

I cant believe you guy's are punishing your daily driven 6 speeds at the track. Ive told you before 6 speeds are not meant to be drag raced. Its just the way there built. Thats why you get chitty times with a 500 or even 600 HP trucks.



... ...



Face it its a waste of money to drag race a 6-speed



Ive had both a

02 HO QC, LB 4X4 w/ ez that ran 16. 7

99 QC, SB, 4X4 DTT stock with comp box 14. 7



... ...

hmmm,, how many of you folks with 6 speeds ran at the track 100% stock, CTD 600/610's please.



I ran 16. 5 STOCK.



I really need to get some current numbers to back up my claims that I think most of you guys are slow cuz you can't shift fast enough But then again, this ConFE is cramping my style when it comes to quick shifts. And I think that is a rather common factor amoung high HP trucks is the fact that most of us will run a heavier clutch like the ConFE and there for slower shifts.



But there was that one time I rowed though the gears with ease and speed, just can't seem to repeate it.



And as far as your claims of shock load, that would apply to ANY manual transmission. Even car trannies.



BigDan, yeah, heh, 2nd gear goes quick, and if your nto paying attention that little ricer will get a jump on a roll. But once 3rd is enguaged, it's all over by the crying for the ricer when you run right by squaking 4th and giving the poor guy an ear full of striaght pipped exhaust.

 

[cmonroe]

Four years ago I ran a 13. 52 on my 98 5 speed (diesel only) with a 1. 78 60' launching in 4wd, 2nd gear at 4000 rpm's with an H2e turbo. Compounds ran a 12. 96 doing the same. All on a South Bend FE and a 5 speed built by ATS.

 

[ChrisOlson]

Big dan



looked at your wrecked truck dam bad however I would like more info about the picture on the top row 3rd picture to the right



chris

 

[Tomeygun]

You guys gota be in the low 14's to high 13's with over 500hp.



Reason I say this is the cars I've seen raced on the street and the ones I've raced.



For example, latest race was my buddys 2500, Same truck, except his is a sort box with bully dog stuff, a funky turbo mod, and some fuel mods.



On the highway, 50+ we are DEAD EQUAL. Pre- Confe, we were equal, depends on who got the jump first basicly.

Well to give you an idea, My 15. 5 run -- I had a 98mph trap speed. The same as most high 13 sec cars.



That just means my clutch is not up to the task of launching at 3000 rpms in 4wd... But dont worry, The DD will

 

[JasonCzerak]

Well to give you an idea, My 15. 5 run -- I had a 98mph trap speed. The same as most high 13 sec cars.



That just means my clutch is not up to the task of launching at 3000 rpms in 4wd... But dont worry, The DD will

That sounds about right then.



I've been messing around with the adjustable HD master/slave cylinder deal. I think I found a happy medium.



Also, I'm pondering if the AmsOil 5w30 syncromesh stuff has broken down simular to other transmission fluid that be some of hte cause of my slow shifting...

 

[LesStallings]

I don't believe a NV5600 will ever be a speed shifting transmission. The sucker is HUGE and designed for heavy truck use. Mass x speed results in an inertia that is hard to overcome (accelerate or slow down) when shifting.



I feel sorry for the syncros in the NV5600 transmissions that folks try to speed shift.

 

[JasonCzerak]

I don't believe a NV5600 will ever be a speed shifting transmission. The sucker is HUGE and designed for heavy truck use. Mass x speed results in an inertia that is hard to overcome (accelerate or slow down) when shifting.



I feel sorry for the syncros in the NV5600 transmissions that folks try to speed shift.

And how's the auto any different. Heck, it falls apart in stock form at over 100hp over stock.



The only thing that thinks about failing apart at 150hp is the stock clutch in the NV5600. CAn't say that for an auto



The only problem here I see is currently ATS is the only company that builds a better then stock transmission. From their site, short of heavy dity barrings and what not, nothing to enhance "speed" was changed.



Now if we can get a transmission bolted up that is lighter and more race worthy. Or reconfigure the NV5600. I dunno, maybe dog tooth the gears for clutch less shifting, or redesign the synco to encourage faster speedup/slow down of gears?.

 

[lmills]

And how's the auto any different. Heck, it falls apart in stock form at over 100hp over stock.



The only thing that thinks about failing apart at 150hp is the stock clutch in the NV5600. CAn't say that for an auto



The only problem here I see is currently ATS is the only company that builds a better then stock transmission. From their site, short of heavy dity barrings and what not, nothing to enhance "speed" was changed.

With a post like that, you can't be serious??? At least I certainly hope you are joking?

 

[pwerwagn]

Alll I gotta say is I have a 5-speed, I race it, Ive gotten some decent 60' times. But as soon as I get the $$, an auto is going in. Its just not worth the money to break the 4500 all the time. One of my syncros is already gone and I just had the trans out in dec...



Our track is 5200' altitude. with my stock clutch (slipping), and just a #11, nothing else, I pulled a low 2 sec (2. 2 I think) 60' (launching in 1st... if I launched in 2nd, the clutch wouldnt do its job) and around a 16 flat at 89mph.



Im sure with the good clutch and other stuff, im in the mid 15's now. But my bro-in-laws truck has waaay less power than mine, and he runs 15 flat. If we race from a 30mph roll, I can pull a few truck lenghts on him. but if we race off the line, its over. I think he runs 1. 9sec 60 foots consistantly... .



My reccomendation... . buy an auto. It hurts to say that as much as I love standards!!!!!



--Jeff

 

[JasonCzerak]

With a post like that, you can't be serious??? At least I certainly hope you are joking?

Stock vs. stock, there is no way an auto is going to survive the same beating a manual will.



The only real reason manuals aren't as fast is either A: human factor, or B: no one really attempted to make the manaul faster.

 

[BigDan]

Alll I gotta say is I have a 5-speed, I race it, Ive gotten some decent 60' times. But as soon as I get the $$, an auto is going in. Its just not worth the money to break the 4500 all the time. One of my syncros is already gone and I just had the trans out in dec...



Our track is 5200' altitude. with my stock clutch (slipping), and just a #11, nothing else, I pulled a low 2 sec (2. 2 I think) 60' (launching in 1st... if I launched in 2nd, the clutch wouldnt do its job) and around a 16 flat at 89mph.



Im sure with the good clutch and other stuff, im in the mid 15's now. But my bro-in-laws truck has waaay less power than mine, and he runs 15 flat. If we race from a 30mph roll, I can pull a few truck lenghts on him. but if we race off the line, its over. I think he runs 1. 9sec 60 foots consistantly... .



My reccomendation... . buy an auto. It hurts to say that as much as I love standards!!!!!



--Jeff

You will hit 1. 9 60ft all day once you know how to launch.



I was pulling 1. 9's with my old 02 HO 4X4 QC LB w/ EZ.



All you need to do is put in in 4wd, 2nd gear, rev it yo 2300rpm and dump the clutch. That's all.



As far a strength goes, its all in the clutch's, auto or manual. My stock clutch only lasted 40K on my 02 HO w/ only an ez, and 15K on a stock rebuilt auto w/o any juice... .



As far as beefed up manuals, With out knowing the whole story I'd have to say the ATS built 6-speed is nothing more then a stock rebuilt with little worthless parts that they upgrade and you take it in the pocketbook. I cant see them designing and fabracating a completely beefed up manual.

 

[pwerwagn]

You will hit 1. 9 60ft all day once you know how to launch.

Im sure it will. I was surprised that I pulled a 2. 2, leaving in 1st, with a slipping clutch!!! My biggest problem is 2nd to 3rd. my 3rd syncro is bad now, and getting it into 3rd is a bear. My 3-4 shift, I only loose about 6pounds of boost, but since I cant get it from 2-3 fast anymore, I loose a lot of boost.

Im also afraid now that I have a good clutch, I will break input shafts. We'll see in guess. I am not gonna stop racing it anyway!!!



--Jeff

 

[TX Gooseneck]

Now I have to see if I can get in the 13's.