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Good suggestions on here. The buying public controls the price. It is the old supply and demand that has a direct effect on prices. The less we buy the lower the price. The Oil Companies probably anticipate a slow down in sales so they are stock piling money. If we and the automobiles would stay out of the stations that buy crude from the towel heads it would help a lot. Exxon and Mobile are the Companies that buy the Towel Head Oil. Citco comes from Chavez we should not buy from a dictator. I saw something the other day that I believe. There is 200 years of oil in Prudo Bay AK. I would guess we don't drill it or uncap it because we would have to build more refineries. Until the IDIOTS that are in the way are voted out of office it probably won't happen. As I have said before. They think they can force the auto industry to build pollution free cars by not allowing new refineries to be built. They are creating a larger problem by creating a shortage and driving the price up. TYPICAL to say the least. A good example of their ignorance is their refusal to allow underbrush to be cleaned out of our forests for fear some logging would take place. They must not know lightening strikes sets fire to the underbrush and we then have a full blown forrest fire. Millions of acres of trees destroyed that could have been saved to say nothing of the Firemen that loose their lives. The people responsible for this are nothing but IDIOTS and do not deserve any respect from anyone. Indirectly they commit murder.





I would think if they tapped those oil fields in Alaska, they could use the refineries we already have if we stopped importing so much oil. JMO



And I don't think it's so much a supply and demand issue, any more. I know I've cut down, and I'm sure lots of other people have, too. There's just too many speculators deliberately driving the price up.
 
I have to respectfully disagree with Gary. Are the oil companies making huge profits right now? Of course they are. Where were all the naysayers when oil and gas was dirt cheap and oil companies had to merge to stay afloat? Where do you think ExxonMobil, ConocoPhilips, BPAmoco came from? Two points. Number one, the oil companies are finally making money after years and years of just scraping by. If you averaged out their profit over the last 30 years, it wouldn't look so good, it's a cycle, they have years of really good profits and really bad profits, look at the whole picture, not just a portion of it. The other plus side with the oil companies making lots of money is that they are spending a TON of money on exploring and finding and bringing to market new oil finds, that's a good thing for everyone. My other point is that while it is very well publicized how much money "Big Oil" companies are making, no one says where those profits go. It goes to the share holders. Most of the oil companies stocks are owned by mutual funds. Who has money in those mutual funds? You and I and everyone else out there who has a 401k or an IRA. I'm making money because I have my money invested in these companies. Besides all that, if our government wasn't so restrictive on drilling for oil in our own country or in the ocean off our own coasts and building new refineries, the oil companies would've done it years ago and we would all be enjoying $2 or $2. 50 a gallon diesel and "Big Oil" wouldn't be making their "outrageous profits".
 
Wow, down to $105. 68!!!!???? Who cares! Let me know when its half that! Diesel is up about $1. 40 per gallon here from one year ago. Guess when I bought my first diesel? One year ago, when diesel was a good 50 cents or more cheaper than gas! I guess the rise in prices is all my fault! Sorry.
 
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It's Time To Cut The Trade Deficit

Peter Morici 03. 26. 08, 6:00 AM ET



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Americans need to knock down some false gods.



Globalization is not an unalloyed good. We don't need 300-horsepower cars. And Wall Street is not a citadel of integrity.



The 1990s were the golden age of free trade. The U. S. sealed the North American Free Trade Agreement, launched the World Trade Organization and escorted China into that temple of global commerce.



The idea was simple: Americans would import more T-shirts and furniture and sell more industrial machinery and software to a world hungry for technology. Americans would move into higher-productivity export industries and earn higher incomes in the trade-off.



In the 2000s, America's CEOs, bankers and management consultants learned how to outsource just about everyone's job but their own. Radiologists who read MRIs, journalists who wrote copy for local papers and computer engineers joined the ranks of workers displaced by imports.



The average American worker's income stagnated, and, for many, inflation-adjusted wages fell. U. S. productivity gains were hogged by executives at Wall Street banks, technology companies and multinationals through big bonuses and peculiar, can't-lose stock options.



The rest of us sunk into debt to fill our gas tanks, feed our children and, admittedly, buy too many cheap imports at Wal-Mart (nyse: WMT - news - people ).



Imports soared much more rapidly than exports, the annual trade deficit jumped to more than $700 billion and Americans borrowed more than $6 trillion from foreigners to pay for two decades of trade deficits. This math permitted Americans to consume much more than we produced and spend more than we earned.



China is perhaps the biggest renegade in the mugging of the American middle class. The U. S. has slashed tariffs on Chinese products from auto parts to TVs, while China maintains much higher tariffs and notorious regulatory restrictions for U. S. exports in its market.



Topping it all, China subsidizes foreign purchases of its currency, the yuan, to the tune of $460 billion a year, making its products cheap on U. S. store shelves. The U. S. annual trade deficit with China is about $250 billion.



Chinese growth has pushed up global petroleum prices nearly five fold in six years, and the U. S. oil deficit is now $350 billion and rising.

The banks came up with more creative and risky mortgage products that permitted Americans to live beyond their means. We went from 10% down to 5% down to nothing down, with banks lending home buyers closing costs through second trusts.



Some loans that required no payback for five years even let folks dig deeper in their pockets on the premise that home prices would always go up. The banks sold these risky loans, bundled as bonds, to foreign investors like the Chinese government and foreign pension funds, as well as to U. S. insurance companies and corporations with cash to park. The bank executives paid themselves like royalty for the privilege of bilking trusting clients.



When the worst of the bonds--those backed by risking adjustable rate mortgages-- collapsed, the banks got stuck with billions of unsold bonds.



Most recently, Bear Stearns collapsed, and the U. S. Federal Reserve is lending the banks $600 billion against shaky bonds on a 90-day revolving basis. That essentially socializes the banks' losses on bad bonds.



You have to love Ben Bernanke's free trade capitalism. If you are an autoworker put out of work by Korean imports, he, as a good economist, tells you to go to school and find other work. If you are a New York banker caught paying yourself too much and run short of foreign investors to fleece, Ben will make you a loan and keep rolling until the bank finds a new game.



Now foreign investors are getting nervous about all the money they have loaned Americans and the integrity of U. S. banks. They are fleeing dollar investments for euro-denominated securities, gold, oil and just about anything more tangible than the shaky greenback.



Americans are forced to cut back, not just on purchases of cheap Chinese coffee makers, but also on automobiles and other products made in the U. S. Falling demand is casting the U. S. economy into recession, and we won't be able to borrow enough to pull ourselves out.



Getting out of this mess is going to require Americans to live within their means--a. k. a. cut the trade deficit and throw out the rascals on Wall Street.



Cutting the trade deficit requires burning less gasoline and balancing commerce with China.


Americans must either let the price of gas double to force conservation or accept cars with tougher mileage standards. Fifty miles per gallon by 2020, instead of the 35 required by current law, is achievable, but that means more hybrids and lighter vehicles.



The U. S. government should tax dollar-yuan conversions at a rate equal to China's subsidies on yuan purchases until China stops manipulating currency markets. That would reduce imports from China, move a lot of production back home, raise U. S. productivity and workers incomes, and reduce the federal budget deficit.



Ben Bernanke has given the banks a lot and received little in return--except a lot of bad loans on the Fed's books. It is high time he condition the Fed's largesse on reforms at the big banks, even if that means lower salaries for the Brahmins on Wall Street.



After all, what makes them so special?



Peter Morici is a professor at the University of Maryland School of Business and former Chief Economist at the U. S. International Trade Commission during the Clinton administration.
 
The price of diesel isnt coming down guys. When the could have done something about it, they didnt. Now, everything will go up dramatically. The speculators are used to the sky high profits, the oil producers are used to the sky high profits, etc.

On top of that, no one in our government has acknowledged that we are actually at war with Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, etc. They have us down, and are stomping our heads in. We did nothing to stop them from getting there, and now we cant.

Allowing the oil companies to merge was the first mistake. Now there isnt even any competition.

The argument that the oil companies just got by for so many years just doesnt hold water. They got along fine. They had plenty of money. They just wanted more. How do you think they had to capital to find and drill for oil in the first place? Even if they were just getting by. To make a huge amount more money for them at the expense of our economy and our way of life is not justification for this.

I fully believe that a depression is coming. I also believe that the 20th century was the American century. And that, at the end of the 21st century, the US will be viewed as a 3rd world country like Mexico or the like.

We've been sold down the river guys, and we just dont have the vast resources anymore to pull us out.

JMO,

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What we say here will change nothing. People won't stick together anymore. When a good idea is offered nobody likes it because it wasn't their idea. If we would stick together,not just us but everybody that buys gas, we could bring the prise down substantially. It is NOT my idea but a very good idea to not buy any gas at Exxon or Mobile. They get their crude from the Towel-heads. Not only would it bring the price down but our money would not be feeding the terrorists. I will not elaborate further, nobody is going to pay any attention anyway. We have become too stupid to stick together. We will continue to be taken advantage of.
 
Cheaper Diesel means more diesels purchased

Let us not forget that in addition to producing more of our fuel here, thereby reducing our dependance on foreign oil, that we also need to reduce our total carbon emissions. How? More efficient vehicles. Now we all know that diesels are about 30% or so more efficient than a similar gas vehicle. But, other than us truck guys there really aren't many diesel vehicles on the American road. Unlike Europe, we in America don't like diesels. You know smelly, loud, poor performance. That is the average American's view of diesels. There are many new diesels hitting the market in '09 and '10. But who is going to buy them with diesel fuel costing $. 90-1. 00+ more than gas? If we want to get more diesels on the road, thereby reduding the total carbon emissions, diesel fuel must be priced equal to or less than gas or the American public won't by them. Vehicle manufacturers of those new diiesel vehicles - are you listening?



Mike in Florida - 06 megacab (Cummins of course)
 
The oil companies had to merge to stay afloat, that's a simple fact. They were not making hardly any profits in the 90's. I think we are shooting ourselves in the foot going after the oil companies anyways. They are the ones out there drilling anywhere and everywhere they can to bring oil to the market. Ho much cost do you suppose is added to a gallon of petroleum products thanks to all the hoops that the oil companies have to jump through thanks to the government? If you want to be ****** at someone then be ****** at the EPA! Thanks to their 07 emissions and ULSD, prices have shot up $. 60/gallon as was already mentioned earlier in this thread. The Government is bowing at the altar of environmentalists not letting us drill in places where vast known reserves are proven to already exist. The government hasn't allowed a new refinery to be built in 30 years because all the red tape and regulations make it too expensive for an oil company to invest in such things, they would never make their mooney back. Be angry at the government and the environmentalists for trying to choke out the life blood of our economy and way of life. Unfortunately, it looks as though at this point, they are succeeding.
 
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