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with the ever increasing price of Diesel fuel, has anyone out there used or use bio-diesel? I've heard of people using old McD's french fry oil after firing off the engine with regular diesel.



What are your thoughts?
 
My thoughts are what the heck is taking so long for our government to step up with incentives to start production. We have plenty of farmers that need work & we already know it burns cleaner & that the US needs to quit being dependant on other countries for or energy.
 
ditto bkroupa and heavyweight... . we really need to start mass production... jobs for farmers, self sufficiency, jobs created at the plants, researchers, etc... .



I know I'd rather give my money to a few farmers and hard workers then the fat cat oil companies...
 
willysrule said:
ditto bkroupa and heavyweight... . we really need to start mass production... jobs for farmers, self sufficiency, jobs created at the plants, researchers, etc... .



I know I'd rather give my money to a few farmers and hard workers then the fat cat oil companies...



I second this but I can't get it here :{
 
Heavyweight said:
Not to mention: better lubricating properties and higher Cetane ratings...



Higher cetane but lower BTU's meaning less fuel economy on B100. Still great stuff none the less.
 
ChrisLong said:
with the ever increasing price of Diesel fuel, has anyone out there used or use bio-diesel? I've heard of people using old McD's french fry oil after firing off the engine with regular diesel.



What are your thoughts?



Welcome to the TDR.



Just a clarification. Biodiesel and McD's french fry oil are not the same fuel. Although one could make Bio out of waste veggie oil.



Biodiesel cost more than diesel (unless you make your own) but the way the price of fuel is going it may not be that way for long.
 
Running B20 here and the truck loves it. It's quieter, smoother, better smell out the pipe and the engine feels stronger. I am currently checking the mileage and I may be wrong but I think it has increased a little.
 
If Bio diesel was produced in the mass amounts as regular diesel I bet the price would be noticeably less. Write your congressmen about bio diesel and making 1 standard for gasoline for all 50 states. The quality of the one can be from the state with the tightest restrictions but there needs to be one standard to cut down on the 30+ different standards we have today.



Gas would go down, even 10 cents a gallon would be a big help but nothing will happen if you dont hound your congressman.
 
Biodiesel can't be produced in a large enough quatity right now to serve all the needs. I forgot the figures but there isn't enough arable land in the country to be only dependant upon soybean oil or other types (even veggie oil from the resturaunts). Algea seed oil if I remember right actually produces the most gal. /acre. So we'll never truly be independant from conventional dino fuel, just reduce the demand we have for it greatly.



Nathan
 
It is true there is not enough ability right now and even the B20 is still 80% regular diesel. Bio does not give us the independence we need unless we start mixing it higher but then there are some vehicles that won't run on a pure soy or pure veggie oil. My brother has a Cummins. His runs on 100% veggie oil. My Cummins won't do it. I can run pretty good on 50% but any higher and it misses and dies and acts like the filter is plugged. Obviously, it is not but that is the sympton. I imagine my lift pump is a little weak. At least, that is the only reason I can come up with. Both Cummins are in GM vehicles. :)



CB
 
I looked into the french fry oil as a fuel (even bought the book on how to). After checking it out (IMHO) I think a guy would waster more time AND diesel driving around trying to pick the stuff up/filtering it than he'd get out of it. I hate the over $3 a gallon I must pay in Kalifornia but why waste it trying to go around and cleaning out those greasy grease traps on the deep friers. Again HO!
 
Well here is my latest update on bio. As stated I am running B20 and will be going to B50 as soon as possible. The bio is cottonseed oil from what I was told. I did a mileage check with the last fillup and I was floored. My mileage increased by about 1mpg. I filled the tank as much as I could ran 644 miles and filled up again. Took 28 gallons to fill it back to the same point or close to it. By my math I actaully got 23mpg with that tank. I was averaging around 22mpg running between 60 and 62mph no hard starts just rolling in on the throttle and using the cruise. I am currently checking the next tank to see if the results are the same or if I am losing my mind.
 
bkroupa said:
My thoughts are what the heck is taking so long for our government to step up with incentives to start production. We have plenty of farmers that need work & we already know it burns cleaner & that the US needs to quit being dependant on other countries for or energy.



This is good for the farmers, in using there farm-raised products. But as the home brewing starts, you just watch, the government, and the states government units are going to start looking into the lost revenue they are not getting for road re-construction and repair, and do just as they did in the Prohibition days. come and hunt ya-down.

California and Oregon are figuring out a way to tax the Hy-bred cars to return there lost revenue on the road taxes.



Marv.
 
Been using B100 for a while now. Haven't noticed any decrease in power or mpg. Smells better burning than dinodiesel. Still pretty spendy here tho... $3. 85 for B100.



I just like the whole biodiesel idea.
 
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