What ever happened to the Air Dog ?

[GIT-R-DONE]

I was just checking out the Preporators website (www.ekstamworldwide.com ) and nothing..... I had heard ( rumor) that they sold the business and whom ever bought it doubled the price of the Air Dog .



I was curious if the guy ( Charles ) was still around or if the new company ( if there is one ) was still selling them. Did they just change the name of the company? Anyone have any answers ?

 

[DHayden]

Yes the company was sold, yes the new company did almost double the price. I love my AirDog but I bought it the week before they increased prices, I wouldnt pay what they want for one now.

The new owner's didnt even tell their dealer's what was going on, the dealer I tried to order from found out when they called to order mine. The company wasnt even giving dealer discounts so I had to buy it straight from the company.

 

[abdiver]

I don't know the name of the New company manufacturing the Air Dog or even if they are still using that name. But I spoke to a fella today in Houston he said for me to call back Monday (depends on what the Storm Rita does Hope it turns out to sea) anyway he has them and the price is 749. 50. Looks like new owners had to reduce the price from aprox 1000 bucks to 749. 50 I do read about a few persons having leakage problems with FASS and when I spoke to Charles Estkam sp original owner and patent holder of air dog he seemed like a good ol Boy. He said Fass was not the system that air dog was. My 2 cents I would like to hear from others with that have Air Dog on their trucks.

 

[metal tech]

I have one of the Airdog HP models. It works fine, not real noisy, mounted w/o any real problems. The one thing I don't like are the "Chinese labeled" fitting that came with it. The output fitting leaks which is why I'm doing a stainless hardline and using Aeroquip fittings. I haven't installed my fuel press guage yet, so I can't tell you what it puts out. Olee Poole just did studs & o-rings on my truck and said it is strong judging by how fast it reprimed the system. I've had it on since late 2003 or early 2004.



Al

 

[Mishkaya]

the new ownership for the airdog is at: http://www.pureflowtechnologies.com/index.htm

They don't have any pricing up, but I heard that the price was indeed $750 now for the unit. I bought mine last year when they first came out, and have not had any issues whatsoever, love the unit.

mishkaya

 

[mcoleman]

I've had mine for over 30,000 miles now and love it.

 

[DWeiler]

I had a fass for about 1 year,ran great until i pulled my TT with it,400 mile trip and it became real noisey. You could her it over the truck no problem(mounted where the spare used to be). I took it back to the place i bought it from in exchange for an air dog+ difference. The dog is now mounted behind the cab and haven't herd a peep from it,even after towing with it. LOVE IT--16-18psi constant.

 

[BDR]

Love my AirDog, haven't had any problems with it. I've had mine since February.

 

[DarrellB]

No problems out of mine what so ever. No leaks, and it keeps a constant 15psi with 200hp injectors and a Hot Rod pump and the Drag. Like said above it's quiet too, makes less noise than the stock lift pump. I put the low pressure light in the engine compartment since I had a FP gauge and it works out great for priming the system.



DB

 

[Yo Hoot]

But does it do all the things the website claims? Why would I be interested in one?

 

[Mishkaya]

Yo Hoot

I wouldn't say it does all the things it claims. I didn't notice any difference in performance or mileage, but the truck was heavily bombed already, so I likely wouldn't notice any small performance gains. I got it because at the time I thought it was a better product than the FASS, for not much more coin. Back then the RASP wasn't yet available. If I had to choose now, I would seriously consider the RASP, even though I don't have one complaint about the Airdog.

mishkaya

 

[abdiver]

I really don't know much about the RASP sys, that said, I understand that if the RASP fails you can just operate under the stock system. Does this mean the RASP is a parallel system to it?



Does the RASP remove entrapped air?



Does the RASP filter down to 3 microns?



Also the Rasp appears much more involved to install than the Air Dog.



How much for a RASP



Is there a site where I can find more information about a RASP



Thanks, Bill

 

[RMalone]

You can see the rasp and get some info at DTT's website I think it is dieseltrans.com. Sorry I don't know how to post a link Look under the new products section.



The rasp uses the stock fuel filter. And runs off the crank, not electric.

I think it looks like an excellent system but it seems to hang awfully low to the ground for a truck that goes through deep snow and/or mud. It's probably fine but seems scary to me. The FASS hanging on the frame scares me for the same reason but nobody posts any problems so mayhap I'm just paranoid.

 

[rweis]

The RASP is basically a mechanical gear driven pump that runs off a pulley mounted to the harmonic balancer plate. It runs in parallel to the stock lp.



When you start the engine, the oem lp starts up to 8psi. As the engine begins to rotate and the RASP pump starts pumping and goes above 8psi there is a pressure switch that turns off the OEM lp. IF the RASP belt breaks or the RASP fails for any reason the RASP psi drops below 8 psi the pressure switch turns on the OEM lp.



Basically the OEM lp runs for about 1 - 3 seconds on engine start each time you start. That way you can also make sure the OEM lp is functional each engine start.



The RASP has no filtering system. It is a fuel pump.



I went to the RASP because it is developed by DTT and they do an extremely good job when they do something. It mounts to the oil pan front 4 mounting bolts on a billet plate adapter. The mounting system is super easy to install and easy to adjust the belt tension. The belt is a cog type belt. When I ordered a spare it had to come from Gates Industrial division.



I think the best feature is the more rpm the more fuel volume and pressure. It has a bypass valve you put on a T just before the VP inlet to bypass excess pressure back to the tank filler line. You know exactely what the VP is getting. The whole thing is mechanical and extremely well built.



The bypass valves are adjustable if you want a different setting. I left mine alone and get 17 psi max to the VP empty and pulling my RV (13k) I get 16 psi. At idle at a stop light in gear (ETC) I get 14 psi. Out of gear I get 15 psi at idle. I like the idea that the VP bypass valve is generally open somewhat and the excess cooling fuel is bypassed back to the tank.



Ollie Poole (www.powerbypoole.com) is one of the distributors and knows a lot about the RASP. Ollie is a good personto deal with as well.



I ordered my RASP without the plumbing kit as I do my own plumbing. Was not hard to plumb at all. Ollir does sell a plumbing kit I think.



The only maintenance is to change the belt about every 50,000 miles (3 years for me)



I had a problem with my OEM lp for a week or so and found out that the RASP would start the truck no problem by itself wothout the OEM lp. I liked that because I could still start & run if the OEM lp totally crapped out.



I bought it, of course I like it. You quit watching the fp gauge like a hawk.



Bob Weis

 

[DHayden]

I had a problem with my OEM lp for a week or so and found out that the RASP would start the truck no problem by itself wothout the OEM lp. I liked that because I could still start & run if the OEM lp totally crapped out.

Bob Weis

If the engine isnt running the rasp isnt running so the rasp isnt starting your truck. In my case it would be the VP44 on the engine sucking the fuel to start which is not good, though it would do it whether it be RASP, airdog or FASS.

However the RASP does seem like a good setup.



I have had no problems with my Airdog but if it went out I would probably try the rasp... though I dont like the idea of the belt running the system.

 

[JHerrlich]

If the engine isnt running the rasp isnt running so the rasp isnt starting your truck. In my case it would be the VP44 on the engine sucking the fuel to start which is not good, though it would do it whether it be RASP, airdog or FASS.

However the RASP does seem like a good setup.



I have had no problems with my Airdog but if it went out I would probably try the rasp... though I dont like the idea of the belt running the system.

I beg to differ. Your VP44 is an electronically controlled mechanical pump. That means that is isn't pulling fuel either when your truck is not running.



The thing is, the R. A. S. P. builds pressure faster than your VP44 can draw it. Thus you don't have to have your electric fuel pump on. When I turn the key on my truck, the electric pump pressurizes the system and then it doesn't turn back on unless there's a drop in fuel pressure.

 

[DHayden]

Good point, I think I got ahead of myself in my explanation. I believe it still is not good for the VP44 to be providing the fuel if the LP goes out. The RASP will start to draw some fuel with the turning of the engine before it starts, probably not much but indeed it is supplying some fuel. I stand corrected.