What Happens When Things Go Bad... Pics..

[Mikey-KE7LBB]

Im sure it will be investigated thoroughly. .

I just wonder if Guinness Book has been contacted to count the number of "finger pointings" that are gonna happen after this :-laf:-laf



Edit: Also wondering if the sternness of the finger point is a deciding factor on if it counts, or not

 

[Wingate]

Holy crap!!!



Easily a quarter million or more when you factor in other things that got torn up, and cost of downtime may equal that or more.



Wingate, speaking of downtime and engine carnage, how are the 6. 7L Fords doing now?? :-laf

The Fords aren't really doing any better... We have several issues with the transmissions that we cannot seem to get repaired. We have about decided that Ford doesn't entirely understand all the issues.

We are also having some issues with the turbos... again, we complain about it, nothing seems to happen. . All the dealers seem to be frozen into inaction since Ford won't warranty anything. .

One of the techs that works on them for us said he spends 4-6 hours on paperwork trying to get Ford to warranty a turbo... and its hit or miss

 

[Mikey-KE7LBB]

The Fords aren't really doing any better... We have several issues with the transmissions that we cannot seem to get repaired. We have about decided that Ford doesn't entirely understand all the issues.

We are also having some issues with the turbos... again, we complain about it, nothing seems to happen. . All the dealers seem to be frozen into inaction since Ford won't warranty anything. .

One of the techs that works on them for us said he spends 4-6 hours on paperwork trying to get Ford to warranty a turbo... and its hit or miss

Sorry to hear that. I've been checking the threads that you posted on the subject and haven't seen an update, so naturally, I was assuming that it was solved... Sorry to hijack the thread, but myself, and many others were wondering the outcome.



Back to topic (and a little humor): I bet there's a bit more paperwork involved with this one! :-laf

 

[TBartlett1]

Unbelievable!

A photo with a man’s hand near a rod or crank piece would give some perspective of size!

Hope it was a transmission malfunction & not operators error.

 

[Jim W]

Wingate,

No, I did not follow the trucks to much on field follow when I was in Decatur. I was spending too much time trying to keep the pump drive up and running along with the Rexroth pumps on the 5230. We had 2 swing pumps and 6 implement pumps that push close to 800 GPM's plus the pilot and gear pumps for auxiliary usage on the 5230 Front Shovel. The pump drive was driven by a 3512 engine, so I know how big the 3516 is.

The 5230 FS was a great machine for digging, 30 metric ton bucket capacity rating. Could fill a 785 haul truck in four passes in about 2 minutes and a 789 haul truck in 5 passes in under 2 1/2 minutes.

Jim W.

 

[AMink]

"Thank you for calling NAPA, this is Pete. How may I help you?"

"Hi Pete, this is Bob at the mine. Get your pencil out, I'm gonna need a few parts. "

 

[EDankievitch]

See that's why Dodge put a Cummins in and not a Cat. Cat's fly apart..... Lol

Wow that really went to pieces, glad I wasn'tsitting in the cab when it happened. Anyone get hurt? Hope not. Thanks for sharing the pics.

 

[Wingate]

I just wonder if Guinness Book has been contacted to count the number of "finger pointings" that are gonna happen after this :-laf:-laf



Edit: Also wondering if the sternness of the finger point is a deciding factor on if it counts, or not

I guarantee there aren't enough fingers on your hand to point the blame somewhere else!!. .

I always like it when theres a connecting rod sticking out the side of the block and the customer says," it was running fine, I just shut it down and went to lunch, came back and it wouldn't start... I think the starter is messed up"!

 

[Wingate]

Wingate,

No, I did not follow the trucks to much on field follow when I was in Decatur. I was spending too much time trying to keep the pump drive up and running along with the Rexroth pumps on the 5230. We had 2 swing pumps and 6 implement pumps that push close to 800 GPM's plus the pilot and gear pumps for auxiliary usage on the 5230 Front Shovel. The pump drive was driven by a 3512 engine, so I know how big the 3516 is.

The 5230 FS was a great machine for digging, 30 metric ton bucket capacity rating. Could fill a 785 haul truck in four passes in about 2 minutes and a 789 haul truck in 5 passes in under 2 1/2 minutes.

Jim W.

Years ago, I did a complete rebuild on the 5230 engine that got moved from Nevada to Texas. .

You hydraulic guys are just some twisted individuals!!. . We got the entire shed with cooler, engine, and all the hydro. pumps/lines and fire suppression system... .

After rebuild, dyno, and paint... we almost had it completely installed when the customer decided they wanted us to replace ALL the hydraulic hoses!! That should be illegal!!. . It was like trying to untangle a swimming pool full of spaghetti. . !!!!!

 

[BIGNASTY]

Come on I thought you guys were real mechanics. Just a dab or two of JB weld and it's good as new :-laf

 

[Wingate]

Im afraid "all the kings men" couldnt put this egg back together again. .

And if they did, I would call in sick on start-up day. .

 

[KLauber]

Tsk Tsk

Well its obvious they didn't use Amsoil fluids isn't it?

 

[Wingate]

Well its obvious they didn't use Amsoil fluids isn't it?

hahaha... your beloved Amsoil wouldn't have saved this one either.

 

[KLauber]

hahaha... your beloved Amsoil wouldn't have saved this one either.

I used 3 rolleyes!! But you're right, nothing would have saved that poor Cat :{

 

[Wingate]

For some reason I thought those big mine trucks used a generator and unit motors at the wheels. Thats a mess. I wonder what the RPM was at explosion time!



Nick

Do not know the RPM, but I have seen this same family of engine in a 777 go to above 3K, which is approx. 1K above rated RPM, all it did was throw a few pushrods off.

In that ones case, they were in top gear and fully loaded when they started down a long downhill... When the trans was already in top gear, the weight and momentum basically overdrove the engine... .





You may be thinking of the LeTourneau mining equipment... they build some of those about 20 miles from me. .

 

[Wingate]

Unbelievable!

A photo with a man’s hand near a rod or crank piece would give some perspective of size!

Hope it was a transmission malfunction & not operators error.

If you see one of the pistons, it is 7. 10" bore... (i think). . if that gives you an idea. .

 

[Bill Lins]

"Thank you for calling NAPA, this is Pete. How may I help you?"

"Hi Pete, this is Bob at the mine. Get your pencil out, I'm gonna need a few parts. "

Now that's funny right there... :-laf

 

[Wingate]

"Thank you for calling NAPA, this is Pete. How may I help you?"

"Hi Pete, this is Bob at the mine. Get your pencil out, I'm gonna need a few parts. "

I bet top of the list was air freshener and a roll of toilet paper!!!

 

[rbattelle]

For some reason I thought those big mine trucks used a generator and unit motors at the wheels. Thats a mess. I wonder what the RPM was at explosion time!

Nick

I think all the Cat large mining trucks are mechanical drive. I think Komatsu uses a diesel/electric as you describe in their largest mining trucks.

I thought I heard a rumor that Cat was likely to move to diesel/electric whenever the 797 successor comes around.

-Ryan

 

[Wingate]

LeTourneau 2350 is diesel electric... I believe they pioneered the idea in mining equipment. .