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What is Bush Thinking on the Amnesty Issue

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I think people oversimplify the illegal alien situation. They look at the jobs the guys do, and they say, "Wow, look how hard these people are willing to work, they are the salt of the earth and we can't get by without 'em". I ain't convinced. I expect there a large % of them are decent folks who would make good citizens --- BUT there is one thing that you can't overlook. Namely, if they had put in the huge amounts of work back HOME that they do HERE their countries would be in a lot better shape and they wouldn't have to come up here to start with!



Think about it - there are up to 12 million illegals in this nation, the vast majority from south of the border, who come up here and build all the infrastructure we take for granted. Fine home building, installation of sewers, sidewalks, streets, electricity, you name it. 12 million people who could easily use the American example to transform their governments from banana republic graft to full-fledged democracy. But the graft and corruption are so deeply embedded in their system at home, that it is easier to walk 1,000 miles and cross the border illegally HERE than to do what needs to be done at HOME.



Inevitably the illegals will bring with them the legacy of their political system, and as they attain political power through numbers we are going to see the same banana republic BS that they do back home. THAT'S why they should not be granted legal status unless they do the full immigration routine, including a good amount of training in American government and English. No habla Engles, no permanent status.



Think I'm wrong? Go to a border town and check out conditions. On the north side, ample prosperity, peaceable conditions, people putting their land and resources to work effectively. On the south side, only a few hundred yards away, with the EXACT SAME climate, natural resources, and opportunity to reinvent their government as on the north side, you see squalor, poverty, graft, corruption on an unbelievable scale. Why should there be such a huge disparity? After all, Mexico was a nation (and a powerful one) before Texas gained independence, they had equal opportunity to encourage industry, education, modernization as the Norte Americanos... but the system of graft and corruption destroyed their chances. And it's just a matter of time until we have the same thing here. Goodbye due process, hello la mordida. THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT :mad: :mad:
 
When I was working those jobs "Americans Won't Do", like landscaping, lawnmowing, warehouse labor, and asphalt paving, I was trying to earn money for college so someday I could have a job that would pay better.



Now I'm there, where I wanted to be. Working a tech job at a high tech company. A company who, like all the rest, is working as fast as they can to "offshore" IT and engineering jobs to Elbonia (India, if you don't understand Dilbert).



So maybe it all works out. Kids nowadays don't have worry if all the low-skilled, lower-paying jobs are going to illegal aliens. Where's the motivation to earn money for college? Who's gonna want to be an engineer in 10 years anyway? You'll have to live in Calcutta... .



I voted for Bush. I've supported several of the things he's done. But I have not had this amnesty thing explained to my satisfaction yet. I am very disappointed.
 
"Doing jobs that Americans won't do"



What job is that if the American needs the work? I've done most of the work that illegals now do, and if it all fell apart for me I'd do it again.



BUT:



If I were to go and agree to work in one of the canneries where I once did, AT the rate that they're now paying, why they'd simply pull out the blanket from me by cutting my pay even lower because they'll ALWAYS find illegal labor to do it for that lower amount.



A brainwashed "republican" asks: "why do the democrats not like this?".

He is ignorant of the history of the democratic party. That party has ALWAYS been the worker's party while the other is the party of the fatcats who would misuse the working man. This REPUBLICAN program is designed to further bleed down the middleclass working people in this country. It will serve the rich by giving them freedom from the hardfought pay and benefits for being a working person in this country by using illegal CHEAP labor to undercut us.



How can any American patriot support this?
 
Bush has lost his mind ...

Bush has turned in to some big time liberal leftist lunatic.



When the NH Primary comes in a few weeks, I'll pull a Repub. ballot and write my own name in.



As I have said before, Bush will sell out the gun owner of this country as well come this fall when I'm sure he will renew the ASB.



He will follow his father down the "1 term" path.



And please KRS ... . spare me the "... democratic party. That party has ALWAYS been the worker's party ... " BS.



They screw us every chance they get. They cry about the "Working Man", what a F... ing JOKE! They got you dazzled with minimum wage crap on one side while they steal your freedoms on the other side.



The dems will love all these new illegals coming here to the US ... each one is another vote for them ... a vote for the welfare check.



I'll be voting Libertarian or the Constitutional party this fall.



What a F... ing disappointment Bush has been ...
 
GWB will not get my vote, ever again. I will either not vote or vote for , hell I don`t know. I do know I won`t vote for Bush again.
 
While I may not agree with his stance on this issue, I may not fully understand it.



Bush gets my vote again.



The lessor of two evils last election has done a LOT of good for this country.



I'll take my chances with the lessor again.
 
Just look

Just look, now Bushs buddys in Texas can hold on to good help! Before they had to send them away every time the INS showed up, now they can keep their Mexicans...





If he really wanted to help the Mexicans out, he would push our labor laws down Mexicos throat!!!!:D Vote Clark!
 
Lots of people say there is no impact to us from all this stuff, but I think the taxpayers are taking a hosing here. I feel kinda like that boxer who was fighting the champ - After the 1st round, he staggers back to the corner bleeding and dazed and his trainer tells him, "Atta boy kid, you're doing great! He didn't lay a glove on ya!"



2nd round, the guy crawls back to the corner bleeding from both ears, both eyes, and with his nose on the back of his neck. The trainer tells him, "GREAT job kid, absolutely GREAT! You're tearing him limb from limb! You're murderlyzing him! He didn't lay a glove on ya!"



The fighter looks up at him painfully, and says, "Well call the cops then, because somebody's sneaking in there and beating the **** outta me!"



Fighter = American Taxpayer :mad: :mad: :D :mad: :mad:
 
I don't know all the details of this but I have a couple theories.

Theory#1. After 9/11 Bush and INS realized that our borders are leaking badly and we are spending a huge amount of money to catch the illegal immigrants and send them back. If they allow all the people that are already here stay, they can put their full concentration on the borders.



Theory #2. If we are starting to crack down and less Mexicans, etc. are getting across the border, and the Mexican government is requiring more aid from the US, why not keep the people here instead of wasting all the money to try and get them back and have some productive people making money here for the US rather than sending our taxpayer money over there?



Either way this is a messy situation.
 
I've voted Republican for more years than I care to remember and have stodd behind Bush in all decisions since he's taken office!



HOWEVER,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, HE'S REALLY CROSSED THE LINE THIS TIME!!!:mad: :mad: What the hell does he think he's doing? Our country is being taken apart piece by piece and now he's speeding up the process.



I don't know who I'll vote for in the next election,,, but you can bet your last dollar that it WON'T be BUSH!!!!



I fear that we're all witnessing the slow down fall of the USA!:(
 
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