What is the Registered Weight of your Ram?

[JJW_ND]

This might not the best place for this but I am after information from other Dodge Diesels (2500 and 3500) especially 2000 and 2001's. Our state has been apply what seems to be very high vehicle registration weights to recent new trucks we have recieved. High enough (14,000) that it easly pushes on into a CDL (Truck + 12,001 lb trailer).

What is your truck registered for?

ND use 2x the MSO weight rounded up to the nearest 1,000. State law they say! All our Ram 2500 diesel and V10 have been tagged at 14,000 the last few years. Seems like DMV just trying to raise a extra $. The CDL issues is a real pain but reality.

jjw
ND

 

[David Phipps/Mike Hurd]

On my 2000 reg @ 36,000 the 92 was @ 36,000 and the FL is @ 54,000 lbs My insurance and IRP plates for all run approx $ 22,000. 00 Per year But geeze we have fun ! Mike

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http://hometown. aol.com/hotshothauler/myhomepage/business.html 2000, CTD 3500, Air brakes on truck & trailer. 179,000 miles todate. DOT custom built sleeper unit. pulling a 40' G/N flatbed
2000 FL-70 Pulling a 48' low boy.
Just bought another 92 D-350 215 P-Pump motor and NV 4500 180,000 miles 24 lbs boost all stock For now

[This message has been edited by David Phipps/Mike Hurd (edited 03-23-2001). ]

 

[illflem]

When I'm hauling with my 3500 it's registered for 36,000, no CDL for Ag in WA. One thing that's nice about WA DOL is that you can register for trailer tonnage on a month by month basis, I change the tonnage according to the time of year for the expected hauling.

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95' 25004X4,AT,Driftwood,Banks Stinger,Warn fender flairs and running boards(work truck)
95 3500,5 speed 3:54,BD E-brake,Driftwood,Banks&Psycotty,34,000 GCVW apple and tractor hauler(works harder truck)

 

[JJW_ND]

How about some of you guys that just had DMV assign your registered weights?

I have a CDL and had my truck bumped up alittle higher. But for the fleet of trucks I work with, not all drivers have CDL's. Seems kinda ridiculss that if you grab the Chevy 3/4T pickup you do not need a CDL, but if you grab the Dodge 3/4T and hook it to the same trailer you do!

jjw
ND

 

[rickhans]

You have lost me somewhere. I am familiar with de-rating weights on trailers, but how can you up-rate a rating on a pickup? It was my understanding from talking to the Texas DPS license and weights that the legal weight max for the pickup is the gvw that is posted on the tag on the door jam, which is 8800 on mine. Also, since the rear axle weight has a limit, how could you legally gross out at 14k pounds? It seems like you would have to have 7000 pounds on the rear axle plus the original truck weight.

If you are talking about GCVW, Texas DPS said that Texas does not use that figure when determining weight limits on pickups, only the GVW of the trailer + Rear Axle rating on the pickup if it is being checked for over weight. For CDL requirement, it is Trailer GVW + Pickup GVW < 26,001 pounds.

Please explain.

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98. 5 24V QC 4x4 SB 3:54 5sp

[This message has been edited by Rick Hansen (edited 03-24-2001). ]

 

[JJW_ND]

Rick... I think this is to cover unregister trailers (brand new and untitled) and other commodities.

Your explanination of what pushes you into a CDL (>26K) is where we are running into problems. The truck weight (gvw) is defined (ND State Statue) as the greater of the actual pickup GVW (8800 for Ram2500) or the Registered weight (14,000) in our case. Thus the GVW of 14000 is used for our pickups. This is pre-asigned by DMV (see original post).

So are you saying in TX the registration for a Ram2500 is 8800 ???

jjw
ND

 

[rob10858]

here we go again. all of our one tons are registered at 25999, to stay below commercial regs and extra fees. ive been told in seven states that this is the proper way to register the truck, when hauling , the weight on the truck registration should cover the combined weight of your loaded rig, truck, trailor, and load. the higher your truck reg weight the more it costs in registration fees, right? right there you are in a situation where the 10500 lb gvwr on your 3500 means nothing, we are being told to register our trucks for more than twice what a normal truck would be registered for in a non towing situation. guess why? like i said before on different posts, the law is more concerned with taxing your truck to the hilt, not the trailor. my trailor is registered for 10000 lbs gvwr with a 20000 lb gross. that makes no sense at all, because it has two 10000 lb axles, right off the bat, theres a conflict as far mnf ratings vs reg ratings. but again, thats what weve been told to do by the usdot, and every state in the se we travel.

 

[Missouri Mule]

In Florida concerning only the weight issue if your vehicle weighs or its GVW is more than 8000 lbs( up to 2599 lbs) you need a CLASS D license.
So if a GM/chevy 3/4 ton GVW is 7500 the driver can have Class E (regular License).

You can declare a heavier GVW put you pay a higher registration fee.

My GVW is 8800 but I declared at 9999 it cost me $20 more a year but I don't have to worry about being over loaded if DOT stops and weighs me. Dot can fine any truck (pick up ) for being over weight.
In Florida they require you to declare GVW on Pickups and other trucks but for some reason not on Vans( my vans had the same or higher GVW than the Mule). Of course at the produce market there are idiots that stack produce 4 ft higher than roof, the tires are almost flat, that drive 1/2 tons.

 

[CUMINNTSTRKN]

in montana we get away with alot since everybody's a rancher. when my buddy went to register his tandem dually flatbed with a 20k gvw the woman behind the counter told him if he registered it at 20k it would be over $200. if he registered it at 30k it was $25 since it was commercial. the only problem is if dot pulls him over and he's got over 20k on the trailer he will get into trouble becuase of the tire contact patch he has on the ground. we will usually load the trailer to gvw and put most of the weight of the trailer on the truck. his trailer weighs over 7k unloaded. but dot will usually leave us alone becuase of the rural state we live in.

jim

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2001 eth, ez box, dd2's
My Ram Pics

 

[KB0OU]

24,000 LB.

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96 CC 4X4 2500 SLT AUTO transmission WITH TRANS-GO KIT, PrimeLoc, ISSPRO EGT Boost transmission Temp, GUTTED CAT, 155,000+ Miles still goin' strong, Lots of Ham Radio gear, NO IGNITION NOISE!!! Love my diesel!!! # 8 TST Fuel Plate.

 

[Lurch]

Iowa doesn't register by weight until you hit 26,001 and have to apportion. So I'm good up to 26000 GCVW.

 

[rickhans]

Now I understand better whats going on. I am probably telling everyone what they already know, but I will repeat what Texas DPS just told me anyway.
1. In Texas, I can uprate the GVW of my Ram on my license plate registration. He said the 8800 rating on the RAM is strictly a DODGE issue, and may affect warranty if overloading it damages the truck.
2. Increasing the GVW does not allow me to exceed the rear axle load rating on the RAM.
3. Increasing the GVW does not affect the CDL requirements. Texas, and I presume the U. S. DOT, only uses the factory rating of 8800 GVW plus the registed GVW of the trailer being towed. If total > 26000, CDL is required.
4. If my trailer exceeds 10k GVW, and I pull it across state lines, I am subject to equipment inspections as per US DOT rules, but still does not affect CDL requirements.
This I still don't understand fully.

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98. 5 24V QC 4x4 SB 3:54 5sp

 

[NVR FNSH]

On my title the weight of my '00 2500 4wd QC is 4970 lbs (don't ask #ad
) - the GVWR is 8800lbs. In CA ALL 'trucks' - p/u's, el camino, subaru brat, toyota,dodge, etc - are COMMERCIAL and pay weight fees. The fees go up as the vehicle curb weight goes up. I don't know if you can 'buy' a heavier rating in CA.

Brian