What is the virus doing in your area-try not to get political

[kthaxton]

Just curious...out of those 50 employees, if you know, how many are asymptomatic and how many are severely ill and/or hospitalized ?

Of the 50+ that are out right now, last count was 14 were positive cases, the rest quarantined because of exposure to one of those 14.

Of the 14 cases, I am only familiar with a few cases, those that I've interviewed or had conversations with had mild or no symptoms. However, there is one guy who is in a medically induced coma on a ventilator. That usually doesn't turn out well. As it turns out, he is one that was always outspoken about all the precautions we have to take, and how it was all BS and violating his rights etc. He was at risk, and he should have known that from the beginning.....in fact I may have even told him that several months ago.

 

[Wiredawg]

Here I the San Antonio TX area there has been a huge hit on small businesses, particularly restaurants. Vivian and I like small mom and pop places, that are the hardest hit and many are gone for good. My SIL is a critical care nurse in Houston and I see the GREATEST change in her since COVID started. She's burned out, sometimes distraught, and always frustrated about COVID.

Sadly, it's hard to see the end of it as there's so much desension about its existence, its impact, and overcoming it.

So all, best wishes for recovery in your areas but most of all America and the world.

Ron

 

[seafish]

Of the 50+ that are out right now, last count was 14 were positive cases, the rest quarantined because of exposure to one of those 14.

Of the 14 cases, I am only familiar with a few cases, those that I've interviewed or had conversations with had mild or no symptoms. However, there is one guy who is in a medically induced coma on a ventilator.

Thanks for the further explanation

 

[SnoKing]

Of the 50+ that are out right now, last count was 14 were positive cases, the rest quarantined because of exposure to one of those 14.

Of the 14 cases, I am only familiar with a few cases, those that I've interviewed or had conversations with had mild or no symptoms. However, there is one guy who is in a medically induced coma on a ventilator. That usually doesn't turn out well. As it turns out, he is one that was always outspoken about all the precautions we have to take, and how it was all BS and violating his rights etc. He was at risk, and he should have known that from the beginning.....in fact I may have even told him that several months ago.

If he does recover, he most likely will have on going side effects the rest of him life. This virus can be very unforgiving!

All of our son's employees got it in their office except one. He brought it home to his wife. He lost 18 pounds in two weeks, slept almost 20 hours a day. Says he is OK now, he is in his mid late 50's and very athletic and is in good shape which probably helped. She is a lot younger and had a mild case. Teen daughter took care of them at home and did not get it.

 

[kthaxton]

I should add, those that I interviewed, was on the same day they received their test results, which would have been early on in the infection. They could have ended up having worse symptoms later, maybe, but they were all reasonably healthy people.

 

[BoeingDiesel]

My eldest is a trauma specialist in SD county and we continually, as parents, worry about him and the amount of exposure his profession has to endure. I've had the bad Flu a couple times in my life and from what I've heard, survival in my age group of 70+is not real high or may result in ongoing conditions for this strain. Not good, but what do ya' do...you can't stop living.

 

[SnoKing]

My eldest is a trauma specialist in SD county and we continually, as parents, worry about him and the amount of exposure his profession has to endure. I've had the bad Flu a couple times in my life and from what I've heard, survival in my age group of 70+is not real high or may result in ongoing conditions for this strain. Not good, but what do ya' do...you can't stop living.

We are reverting to childhood and bought a reverse trike(Spyder).

 

[BoeingDiesel]

Snoking, I couldn't agree more. I have a toy that I thoroughly love but my wife now refuses to get into that, "Thing."

 

[SnoKing]

Snoking, I couldn't agree more. I have a toy that I thoroughly love but my wife now refuses to get into that, "Thing."

Those old Nomad's are way cool.

I bought this from my brother when I returned from Thailand the summer of 1967. We both wish we would have kept it.

 

[BoeingDiesel]

That is a nice looking early ElCo and I can well understand you wishing that you still had it.

If the '57 Nomad ever gets finished I'm going to hang my original Dale Velzy 9'8" board complete with original green bondo patches out the back window and we're heading for Huntington...or as we used to call it, " Tin Can beach." Who knows...I might even go out for a set, or two.

 

[SnoKing]

That is a nice looking early ElCo and I can well understand you wishing that you still had it.

If the '57 Nomad ever gets finished I'm going to hang my original Dale Velzy 9'8" board complete with original green bondo patches out the back window and we're heading for Huntington...or as we used to call it, " Tin Can beach." Who knows...I might even go out for a set, or two.

It had been de-badged and had an absolutely straight body, which is difficult in black. 283 with cam and T-10 4 speed. I took out the 3.36 gears and install 4.11's., which work much better with the close ratio T-10.

 

[fest3er]

My eldest is a trauma specialist in SD county and we continually, as parents, worry about him and the amount of exposure his profession has to endure. I've had the bad Flu a couple times in my life and from what I've heard, survival in my age group of 70+is not real high or may result in ongoing conditions for this strain. Not good, but what do ya' do...you can't stop living.

In Virginia for those 70+ years of age, there've been about 17 500 cases, about 4 500 hospitalizations, and about 2 700 deaths. That's a 15% death rate for those over 70. For those *in* their 70s, there've been about 9 300 cases, about 2 300 hospitalizations, and about 935 deaths: a 10% death rate. Numbers not shown, but a 23% death rate for those over 80, and 3% death rate for those in their 60s. For those from 0-69, the death rate is 0.589%, for those from 0-59, it's 0.265%. Not zero, but *far* from alarming.

Now, consider the elderly who have died from covid. I suspect many (or most) of them already had other conditions that weakened them before covid came along (such as heart, lung, circulatory problems) and enabled covid to significantly weaken them further to the point they would/could not survive. I think it comes down to the fact that the elderly who do survive are generally healthy with no moderate-to-serious underlying conditions.

I (most likely) had covid for the whole month of November last year: a slight sore throat that went nowhere, tickle in the throat that frequently induced coughing, a bit of a head cold that went nowhere, shortness of breath, slight dizziness, tightness in the chest that went nowhere, unusual neural feedback loops (fixation on certain ideas/thoughts). It was mostly like the start of a cold but it didn't go anywhere, didn't develop into a real cold. Having sat in front of a computer for 30 years (practicing self-isolation as we geeks are wont to do), being a smoker, and not getting much exercise, I'm not in the best of shape. Yet I survived it, at 61. And I probably survived a couple much shorter, weaker attacks of it since as the virus changed slightly yet my antibodies rapidly adapted and overcame.

In short, I honestly do not think covid-19 is necessarily as dangerous or as deadly to normally healthy people as many have been led to believe. I think it's the same corona virus that's been around for many years (maybe even millions of years); it just changed a *little* beyond what human immune systems would readily recognize. People who have moderately serious (and worse) existing conditions certainly should take precautions. People who associate with such susceptible folks should also take reasonable precautions to minimize spreading it. But I really believe that folks who are normally healthy should not fear it. Maybe they should've tried to contract it early on, to catch the virus before it changed enough that their immune systems would take that much longer to recognize it, adapt to it, and destroy the virus. As Mom (a former Navy nurse) often said, "Expose me early, expose me often."

See Virginia's data summaries. Also note that the curves are generally flat (there is no huge spike near the beginning); this tells me that the draconian measures taken early in 2020 have been effective (if they were needed at all in the first place) and should be terminated or least quickly phased out.

 

[SnoKing]

In Virginia for those 70+ years of age, there've been about 17 500 cases, about 4 500 hospitalizations, and about 2 700 deaths. That's a 15% death rate for those over 70. For those *in* their 70s, there've been about 9 300 cases, about 2 300 hospitalizations, and about 935 deaths: a 10% death rate. Numbers not shown, but a 23% death rate for those over 80, and 3% death rate for those in their 60s. For those from 0-69, the death rate is 0.589%, for those from 0-59, it's 0.265%. Not zero, but *far* from alarming.

Now, consider the elderly who have died from covid. I suspect many (or most) of them already had other conditions that weakened them before covid came along (such as heart, lung, circulatory problems) and enabled covid to significantly weaken them further to the point they would/could not survive. I think it comes down to the fact that the elderly who do survive are generally healthy with no moderate-to-serious underlying conditions.

I (most likely) had covid for the whole month of November last year: a slight sore throat that went nowhere, tickle in the throat that frequently induced coughing, a bit of a head cold that went nowhere, shortness of breath, slight dizziness, tightness in the chest that went nowhere, unusual neural feedback loops (fixation on certain ideas/thoughts). It was mostly like the start of a cold but it didn't go anywhere, didn't develop into a real cold. Having sat in front of a computer for 30 years (practicing self-isolation as we geeks are wont to do), being a smoker, and not getting much exercise, I'm not in the best of shape. Yet I survived it, at 61. And I probably survived a couple much shorter, weaker attacks of it since as the virus changed slightly yet my antibodies rapidly adapted and overcame.

In short, I honestly do not think covid-19 is necessarily as dangerous or as deadly to normally healthy people as many have been led to believe. I think it's the same corona virus that's been around for many years (maybe even millions of years); it just changed a *little* beyond what human immune systems would readily recognize. People who have moderately serious (and worse) existing conditions certainly should take precautions. People who associate with such susceptible folks should also take reasonable precautions to minimize spreading it. But I really believe that folks who are normally healthy should not fear it. Maybe they should've tried to contract it early on, to catch the virus before it changed enough that their immune systems would take that much longer to recognize it, adapt to it, and destroy the virus. As Mom (a former Navy nurse) often said, "Expose me early, expose me often."

See Virginia's data summaries. Also note that the curves are generally flat (there is no huge spike near the beginning); this tells me that the draconian measures taken early in 2020 have been effective (if they were needed at all in the first place) and should be terminated or least quickly phased out.

So you think you are the new patient zero. I had a similar thing in late December and January. No temperature, and they said it was not covid when I finally went to the doctor.

 

[kthaxton]

In short, I honestly do not think covid-19 is necessarily as dangerous or as deadly to normally healthy people as many have been led to believe.

I haven't heard anything from the medical community that tries to claim it is deadly to healthy people. I have always, and constantly heard it, just as you described it...with few exceptions.

In summary, if someone feels they have been manipulated to think it is deadly to everyone, they just haven't been paying attention.

I think it's the same corona virus that's been around for many years (maybe even millions of years); it just changed a *little* beyond what human immune systems would readily recognize.

It is genetically similar to other Coronaviruses (hence fitting into the "Corona" family) but it is a new, different virus.

 

[Mikey-KE7LBB]

In short, I honestly do not think covid-19 is necessarily as dangerous or as deadly to normally healthy people as many have been led to believe. I think it's the same corona virus that's been around for many years (maybe even millions of years); it just changed a *little* beyond what human immune systems would readily recognize. People who have moderately serious (and worse) existing conditions certainly should take precautions. People who associate with such susceptible folks should also take reasonable precautions to minimize spreading it. But I really believe that folks who are normally healthy should not fear it. Maybe they should've tried to contract it early on, to catch the virus before it changed enough that their immune systems would take that much longer to recognize it, adapt to it, and destroy the virus. As Mom (a former Navy nurse) often said, "Expose me early, expose me often."

Kinda like being forced to play with the kid that has "Chickenpox"??? My mom got it when she was in her 30's and it damn near killed her!!!

I just got informed about my grandparents getting over this!! My grandpa is 91 and my grandma is 87!

 

[b2bomber]

Out of 200ish people in our factory, I think 18 or so people have got the "positive" result. I think 3 people where a mask. This topic is a interesting one. I will just say this and then go hide under my block of cheese. The family and I were watching a episode of Brain Games, in where they do live demonstrations on people to show how the brain reacts. This episode was on social pressures. They put a sign on a pole downtown that said "The Line Starts Here". After minutes people starting lining up to a line that literally was going nowhere or in front of a store. All because people just....started....to....do...it. Also our R/D in March looked into making ventilators instead of our current product, till we did research and did want to build a death machine.

 

[AEdelheit]

The cases are going up fast in Central Oregon, they raised the metrics a lot to get kids back in school and we blew past all the new ones unfortunately.

 

[SnoKing]

It is said that masks are more important to curb this virus than any vaccines that may or may not be created. And herd immunity does not apply to the virus.

 

[BoeingDiesel]

It is said that masks are more important to curb this virus than any vaccines that may or may not be created. And herd immunity does not apply to the virus.

Snoke', I'm curious why you think "herd" immunity won't work for this virus?

 

[Jim W]

The governor in IL is threatening to shut down the state again if the numbers do not show the state bending the curve down again. He has basically outlaw all indoor dining for now. But the cities and counties are resisting and not enforce his mandate.

Another thing that they can't be explained since basically public schools are closed to most students, with e-learning being the primary tool to prevent the spread of Covid19, they are having issues with Covid19 in the schools (per my daughter and daughter-in-law who are public school teacher, this is true). But the private schools in the state which are doing in person learning these schools are not experiencing any out break of COVID19 issues with students or staff. Go figure!