What will happen to places like Genos Garage?

[ohnoitsyu]

I won't argue that Toyota, their vehicles, and their dealers have problems from time to time. However, all of the customer satisfaction scores put Toyota and Honda way above Dodge. There is an obvious reason for this! They - on an average - understand the importance of customer satisfaction and customer loyalty.



You will not find one survey result that lists Dodge above these leaders. Unfortunately, as was just mentioned, these two companies don't offer vehicles with the capacity of our trucks, and who knows if they ever will. Until that time, if we need or want these full-sized trucks, we will have to suffer with poor quality and poor service (on average, as the surveys show).



And when Toyota and Honda do get into the full-sized market, they will raise the bar considerably, and the so-called domestics (who probably assemble more vehicles on foreign soil than the so-called import companies) will either have to step it up, accept 3rd thru 5th place in the truck market, or fail altogether.

 

[Cummins360]

I cant wait untill TOYOTA becomes the number one auto manufacturer in the world ABOVE GM who can go blow themselves. Toyota older little trucks were the most reliable little vehicles I have ever owned or driven. I HATE everything about my dodge except the engine which I LOVE! And that freekin #^&*@^& transmission is going to find its way up the engineers you know what when I find him. I am going to buy a toyota when they start selling diesels and the dodge is going to find its way onto EBAY!!!

 

[EricBu12]

Boy! all this dodge bashing! going to see a fall in member numbers soon I guess... .



I had 2 older toyotas... a 76 and a 89 and yeah they were great little trucks and reliable. If they start making a full size diesel, you will be in the same boat as when dodge started making them in '89..... unproven, lots of problems and yes a lot of people are going to complain on forums as to not understanding why a quality truck maker like Toyota is such crap? sound familiar?



I think the reason Toyota and Lexus CSI numbers are higher is because there are WAY more small car and lux. SUV where the "Mom" gets oil service and such and at dodge, there are trucks, the vans, and the small sports cars... .



My Dodge has some parts that are weak and I upgraded them and my truck is 6 yrs old now and still going strong... Now if you don't ever want to do aftermarket stuff and want to rely on the stocker doing what you want then I'd say you will be dissapointed.



Personally I am waiting for the 4500 and 5500 trucks to come out because I tow a 15 K trailer and there will never be a time the toyotas will be able to handle that... even if they do make a diesel full size I predict their tow rating will be like our 3/4 tons at best.

 

[BigPapa]

... suppliers like Genos Garage, Stylin Concepts, Diesel Manor and the others, how much lost business will they suffer?

John,



Everybody that buys from these folks don't own new trucks with warranty, so I imagine it won't make that much difference to them.



Scott

 

[zstroken]

Toyota eh?? Didn't they just announce another saftey recall that effects over 1,000,000 vehicles. If you look at the numbers toyota is falling in quality. I think this is because of they are aggressively looking at quantity. Yea toyotas/honda are so great everybody remember the first versions of them that came in and within a year they were rusted?? You look at what people do with the "real" heavy duty trucks and we should be happy that they are built as heavy as they are. My neighbor has a toyota tundra and he actually thought he could pull as much as my dodge. Then to top it off he bent his frame hauling a dump trailer full of dirt. Some of the Japanese products are great, but some of them aren't very good. I would like to see some of the dealer relationships improve though.