what would you charge

[sstockton]

I just got asked to tow a Saleen mustang race car down to las vegas and back and I don't know what to charge. They haven't made me an offer and I'm not in the business of hauling so I really don't know where to start.

It is approximately 1300 miles round trip, and it is using my truck and trailer. So I figure fuel plus operating costs and time. what is a decent calculation for operating costs running a truck and trailer. I had one person tell me roughly 60cents per mile, does this seem fair or high to you guys.



Anyone that is in the business of commercial towing of vehicles I would greatly appreciate it if you would give me a ball park on what you would charge. Thanks

Sean

 

[bmoeller]

My boss' dad would probably charge something like $1. 25- 1. 75/loaded mile.



Have enough ins. for the load?

 

[JHardwick]

I believe commercial car haulers are getting $0. 50/loaded mile/car ... ... ..... a 4 car wedge should be in the $2. 00/loaded mile range. I figure my truck @ $0. 50/mile (not loaded) as covering expenses and not putting anything in my pocket. My fuel bounces from $0. 23 to $0. 26/mile.

 

[MMeier]

I believe commercial car haulers are getting $0. 50/loaded mile/car ... ... ..... a 4 car wedge should be in the $2. 00/loaded mile range. I figure my truck @ $0. 50/mile (not loaded) as covering expenses and not putting anything in my pocket. My fuel bounces from $0. 23 to $0. 26/mile.

What expenses Jeff?? You don't pay insurance, IFTA, IRP,SSR,MC #'s..... Be careful Sean, you risk getting your buddy's ride impounded if caught. I could do that haul for $1500, when does it need to be down here?

 

[pwr2tow]

I would charge him a $1. 00 per mile round trip and have him sign a disclaimer for liability unless he paid for the insurance. Make sure he signs a contract and Get at least half the money up front and the rest when you return.



Being as I don't tow commercially that's the way I would do it.

 

[JHardwick]

What expenses Jeff?? You don't pay insurance, IFTA, IRP,SSR,MC #'s.....

I've got lots of expenses. I leave with $1,000. 00 cash and operate off of that until my first drop off. Since my customers pay cash, I replensish that $1,000. 00 at my first drop off. From then on I operate off of customers money. Fuel is gonna eat about $0. 25/mile from the time I leave until I return, not loaded miles. Food, drinks a room when I'm empty etc cost about another $0. 05/mile, not loaded mile. When I get home I total up miles and take out another $. 02/mile, not loaded mile, and throw that in my safe. The rest goes in the bank.



When I need tires, repairs etc, I take it out of the safe. When my insurance premium is due, I take it out of the safe. When my commercial truck/trailer tags are due, I take it out of the safe. Anything truck/trailer related comes out of the safe. So far I'm inline to buy a new truck, cash, next year sometime. Of course it helps that I have no truck payment now.

Aren't these expenses?

 

[JHardwick]

Be careful Sean, you risk getting your buddy's ride impounded if caught. I could do that haul for $1500, when does it need to be down here?

How would anybody ever prove he was hauling his buddies car "For Hire?

 

[sstockton]

I started reading some of the other threads in here and got a little nervous, with the whole crossing state lines thing. I was told the car is insured for being hauled, but I don't know the ins and outs of this business so I'm not sure if that is true or not. I guess you can get insurance for pretty much anything though so that wouldn't surprise me.

The one thing I think I really have going for me is that I was already planning on going to Vegas the weekend this needs to be down there and have hotels and what not, so I have a decent alibi for saying that I'm not for hire. I was already going and asked to do a favor.

So do you pretty much get screwed with as soon as you cross state lines because you have out of state license plates and crossing state lines becomes interstate commerse.

Thanks,

Sean

 

[therabbittree]

Any one I know in a pick up charges over $1. 00 mile. . a few of my friends tow on occaison and do dump trailer loads with their pickup for others...

Thanks,

Deo

 

[sstockton]

What expenses Jeff?? You don't pay insurance, IFTA, IRP,SSR,MC #'s..... Be careful Sean, you risk getting your buddy's ride impounded if caught. I could do that haul for $1500, when does it need to be down here?

Well the car needs to be down on friday November 10th and back on monday november 13th. So you would be making two trips, so roughly 2600 miles for you.



I am getting a little leary of doing this personally, with the whole crossing state lines and insurance thing. The car is supposedly insured for transportation, but I would want to see the policy and have a signed waiver.

Would a waiver even be legit since I don't have a USDOT number or anything like that.

Thanks,

Sean

 

[KBalzuweit]

Well the car needs to be down on friday November 10th and back on monday november 13th. So you would be making two trips, so roughly 2600 miles for you.



I am getting a little leary of doing this personally, with the whole crossing state lines and insurance thing. The car is supposedly insured for transportation, but I would want to see the policy and have a signed waiver.

Would a waiver even be legit since I don't have a USDOT number or anything like that.

Thanks,

Sean

If you are getting paid you are commercial. You need logs, med card, dot, icc..... so on. Can you get away with it... maybe. Get caught or have an accident... . hire a lawyer and pay BIG fines. I believe Mmeier is local to that area, I would highly recomend leaving it to a commercial hauler.

 

[KBalzuweit]

What expenses Jeff?? You don't pay insurance, IFTA, IRP,SSR,MC #'s.....

:-laf :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[MMeier]

:-laf :-laf :-laf :-laf

Laugh now while you still can Mr.

 

[MMeier]

Well the car needs to be down on friday November 10th and back on monday november 13th. So you would be making two trips, so roughly 2600 miles for you.



I am getting a little leary of doing this personally, with the whole crossing state lines and insurance thing. The car is supposedly insured for transportation, but I would want to see the policy and have a signed waiver.

Would a waiver even be legit since I don't have a USDOT number or anything like that.

Thanks,

Sean

Sean, you have a PM!!

 

[MMeier]

How would anybody ever prove he was hauling his buddies car "For Hire?

Don't know about you, but none of my buddies crap gets moved unless I'm reimbursed... . you know the ol saying... gas, grass, or ***, no one rides for free!!! :-laf

 

[MMeier]

Oh lookie!! Jeffy is offline... must be taking his 10 hour break somewhere!!!! :-laf

 

[bmoeller]

Laugh now while you still can Mr.

FYI, he can laugh all he wants. He is also a commercial hauler, with his pickup truck. So he knows all about that crap.



To add to my earlier post, is the ins. on the truck itself, set up for you to haul for hire? If it is personal use type of ins. , and you got in a wreck, they could tell you to take a hike.

 

[JHardwick]

Oh lookie!! Jeffy is offline... must be taking his 10 hour break somewhere!!!! :-laf

Most I ever stop is 2-3 hours, sometimes 4, to break the horses and/or take a nap if it is really that big of a concern to you.



I don't remember ever being sarcastic or insulting to you or anybody in any of these threads regarding a commercial hauling situation. Why are you being so antagonistic? Nothing I say or do effects your daily routine does it?





Does it bother you that bad that I can put $10,000 cash money in my pocket after expenses in a weeks time? Is that what it is? Caused I dayum sure don't remember jerking your chain.

 

[JHardwick]

To add to my earlier post, is the ins. on the truck itself, set up for you to haul for hire? If it is personal use type of ins. , and you got in a wreck, they could tell you to take a hike.

Yes it is, and covers medical (or veterinary) only on horses. I saved a bunch by having customers who are really concerned or who have high dollar horses sign a death waiver and buying their own "one time shipment" policy. It costs them $50 and saves me 10 times that. One of the biggest problems is in a death situation, when a $10,000. 00 horse becomes a $100,000. 00 horse if you know what I mean.

 

[JHardwick]

FYI, he can laugh all he wants.

Who's putting up all the smileys? I haven't done one of these ... ... ... :-laf Oo. or these