Competition whats up DHRA

[smokinrod]

So whats up Gene knowbody has gave me a striat up answer. If it is a power adder , than isn't water ? Water cools , but so does NOS ?



And the same Organization allows the use of NOS on there drag classes ,but not there pullin class?



I do not use it or need it , but it does not make sense to me. either yes to all drugs or no to all drugs.

 

[LPreston]

Thoughts that come to mind:



You can't use NOS in your radiator.

You don't have to store water in a high pressure blue bottle.

You don't have to go to the hot rod shop for a water refill.



Seriously, this always seems to be a subject where the answer is personal. To me, if if NOS is not a power adder and just a coolant, then why the extra expense when water will do the same thing?

 

[Turbo Thom]

This is true, but the water is not poured into the intake with a garden hose. If I remember right, the last Snow kit I installed, it came with a 60 psi pump and nozzles to "mist" the water into the intake. A coolant is a coolant. Not a fuel like propane. Just like water, a coolant. There is just a different process to get it to work, but does the same thing.



I understand the pride of # 2,I've been there. But one thing the spray does, it cleans up the smoke and makes it possible for us to not get looked at by the EPA. We're comming to that, for sure.



Your thoughts?



. . PrestonL. .

 

[jwilliams3]

modified class would be cool with staged chargers vs. single charger and nos

That would get interesting... ... I wouldnt mind seeing that myself.

 

[jeff2]

I still have the only set of 2500 frame rails in the 9s on diesel only

no water! I understand the diesel only theory, I have been on that

kick for years. I believe we need to get the smoke cleaned up to

become more attractive to other motorsports.

 

[LPreston]

There is just a different process to get it to work, but does the same thing.

Then why doesn't the rest of the performance world use water injection instead of the expense of nitrous? Water in a vapor form does not increase the flammability of a fuel, correct? Why don't the Mustang boys use water injection? If there was no performance benefit, they would never touch nitrous.

 

[ob1kobi]

Why in the world should the rules be the same for both drag racing and sledpulling? There apples and oranges, I don't see anything wrong with the drag racers being allowed to do things the pullers aren't, and vice versa. If you want pullers to be able to run nitrous, then come up with a legit reason and give the DHRA a reason to actually discuss it and see what happens. I just don't think that your primary reason should be that just cause the drag racers get to, we should get to. Reminds me of when I was a kid and my little sister would want to do stuff just cause I was doing it.



Personally I could care less if the pullers are allowed to use it or not, as long as the crowds are backed up a little further than they are today. Heck, as far as I am concerned, line two pullers up, put a tree in between them and let them have a pulling drag race, its not about distance, its about who gets there the fastest, tell me how many would come to watch that!



Ted

 

[ob1kobi]

I believe we need to get the smoke cleaned up to

become more attractive to other motorsports.

Excellent point, none of the diesel sports are going to have much longetivity until this is addressed.

 

[Turbo Thom]

The reason as I see it, is what happens to the oil when the water is injected. Ask Kent how often he has to change the oil in his puller. Water works, but the nitrous is just a more efficent application of the two alternatives. Look at any water injection and check the oil. t is not a good lubricant. Diesels will run on oil, but wiil performe better on # 2 diesel, so that's what we use.



And the "clean up" part, I've said for years, but the little fish in the pond ain't seen to well. You just see his bubbles sometimes.



. . Preston. .

 

[Dockboy]

If there was no performance benefit, they would never touch nitrous.

You need to remember, most gasser nitrous applications are "wet" systems where they are injecting additional gas along with the nitrous



Most diesel systems are "dry" setups. You are injecting nitrous only. The oxidation effect of the nitrous helps burn the extra amount of diesel you are overfueled by your injectors... ... . just like a second charger :-laf

 

[smokinrod]

[QUOTE



Heck, as far as I am concerned, line two pullers up, put a tree in between them and let them have a pulling drag race, its not about distance, its about who gets there the fastest, tell me how many would come to watch that!



Ted[/QUOTE]



now that is funny , I would like to do some draggin this year , and I would like to be able to leave my setup in the truck and just remove the bottle not the whole system. It takes a while to put in and remove a two stage computer controled system. And if my cummins will be deemed pro street/hot street or what ever you call it , I feel if above street class you should be able to have it .

And is it really that much safer for spectaters to be up close and personal with Kent or Vans big rigs pullin? isn't HP just HP no matter how you get it?

 

[biggy238]

The application of said horsepower and it's proximity to a crowd would me my main reason for it to be left out of pulling... for now.

 

[IC Smoke]

*off topic*



I just recieved my DHRA packet and it says to put your DHRA DECALS in the required places but I coudlnt find in the handbook where the "required place" is at?



Thanks

Ian

 

[BigBadDodge]

It's in the DHRA Rule book under "POINT GENERAL" page 35 for sled pulling and page 67 for the drag racers.



It reads he same for both;



"Points may be withheld from any contestant who fails to display the required DHRA decal(s). The decal(s) must be displayed on the pulling vehicle at all times during any event. Decals must be in a prominent location, somewhere between the front spindle and rear axle and above the axle centerline. Decals may be cut to contour. "



BBD

 

[Got Smoke?]

That's seems a little intense..... you *MUST* display a decal on your truck or suffer the consequences.

 

[Sled Puller]

Its called motorsports, Mark. Sponsors like to see their name on the vehicles they are paying purses to.



I'm sure it goes back to the first guy who painted , "ELY'S STABLE" on a piece of burlap and threw it on the horse at the first pony pull. :-laf

 

[IC Smoke]

Thanks BBD!!

 

[Got Smoke?]

Its called motorsports, Mark. Sponsors like to see their name on the vehicles they are paying purses to.



I'm sure it goes back to the first guy who painted , "ELY'S STABLE" on a piece of burlap and threw it on the horse at the first pony pull. :-laf

Yeah Sleddy, but DHRA is the ORGANIZATION that makes a lot of sled pulls possible for "everyone", not Joe Smoe's Shop who's custom turbo, etc etc got the guy 1st place.

 

[Rebel Ram]

Back to the Nitros Oxide. Not a fuel? Same as Water? Only a coolant? No, Nitros Oxide won't burn on its own. But... . Throw (or spray) on an open flame. Try the same with H2O. Coolant? Try again!!

 

[Turbo Thom]

Well Mark, wonder what NHRA and NASCAR would say about theory?



. . Preston. .