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I'm going to be replacing my steering gear box soon, but I am having trouble finding one online. I have read where some aftermarket boxes haven't lasted as long as expected, so I'm leaning towards replacing mine with another stock unit.



Does anyone know of a good place to buy one or have any suggestions on a good aftermarket box? I already have a new track bar with Luke's Link, and I will be adding a DSS when I replace the gear box.
 
Stock OEM units are high priced. I'm getting a rebuilt one from AutoZone, Part # 7547, $129. 99 + $160. 00 core charge. Remanufactured by ATSCO, a division of ARI (American Remanufacturers, Inc. ). AutoZone gives you a lifetime warranty with this reman box. I plan to run it for a while and see how it does. If it doesn't hold up, I'll install a DSS with a warranty replacement steering box.
 
I ended up getting a rebuilt one from Advance Auto made by Cardone. All three local part stores carried that same brand and it comes with a lifetime warranty. I'm still waiting on a DSS, it should be here today or tomorrow.



Thanks for the help though.
 
PSC Box

I bought the PSC(Performance Steering Components) steering box and it works great! I can turnn the wheel with my pinky finger due to the lower gearing of the box. It makes your old stock steering box feel like you had no power steering at all. It was a quick swap out and I can't remember the price, it is on the website, I think it is only $225. Definately a good recommendation for those with lifts and big tires.

Make sure you invest in that DSS steering brace as well. It will prevent that sector shaft seal and bearing from going out as well as extend the life of the new box you just purchased. Pretty much any steering box will fail or give you sector shaft problems if you don't do something about it and support it somehow. Just a bad design on Dodge's part. The DSS brace cost for me was $122 shipped to my door. :D

Just tryin' to save up for that expensive Borgeson steering shaft now. :p
 
wes,

Where did you get/order your DSS? Did you get a good deal? How long have you been waiting on your DSS to arrive?

AutoZone carries the Cardone unit too. The parts guy says if I have too many problems with the ATSCO unit, AutoZone will buy it back and put the money toward the Cardone unit. He says both are equally reliable units.



JGheen,

Where did you get/order your DSS? $122 shipped seems like a killer deal. More info please?

Is your PSC a rebuilt stock box with internal mods or a box from a different app?



Beast2B,

The RockRam is very nice. Thanks for the info. It's a bit out of my price range right now.



Thanks guys!
 
Originally posted by Creed

wes,

Where did you get/order your DSS? Did you get a good deal? How long have you been waiting on your DSS to arrive?

AutoZone carries the Cardone unit too. The parts guy says if I have too many problems with the ATSCO unit, AutoZone will buy it back and put the money toward the Cardone unit. He says both are equally reliable units.




I ordered my DSS from Rip Rook last Thursday (5/27. ) He said it should be here in 4 or 5 days I believe, but the shipping company probably didn't work Sunday or Monday (Memorial Day) so I'm guessing it should be here today. The DSS was $150 plus $25 dollars shipping so about $175 to my door. You can contact Rip at 1 (866) 211-1533 or (503) 654-9004
 
Creed, go to solidsteelindustries.com and you'll find their website for the DSS. For the PSC, the box is brand new, but the company PSC tears them apart and puts heavier duty bearings and lower gears in them. Not sure exactly what they do, but get on the website for the phone # and call them. Talk to Tom Allen, he'll give you the low down on the boxes. Really great product!
 
Today I installed a new steering box and DSS. I used a Cardone rebuilt steering box from O'Reilly auto parts. I got the steering box and DSS in and went for a drive and had more play in the steering than I did before. I had my dad turn the steering wheel while I was under the truck to see if I could tell where the play was and it was all in the new (rebuilt) steering box. So I pulled everything back off and got another one. This one is quite a bit better, but still has about 1" of play in it at the steering wheel.



I would like to find a better steering box, but Cardone is the only brand any part store in town has in stock and I'll be working out of town for the next 3 weeks so I needed to get this done.



Has anyone else had trouble with new steering boxes? Also does anyone know how much the PSC boxes cost?



BTW- I'm satisfied with the DSS. It seems to be doing its job well.
 
Just got mine in tonight. It's the ATSCO unit, from AutoZone, without a DSS installed. So far it seems to be OK when I test drove it around the block a few times. I will re-check the fluid tomorrow, then take a 100 mile trip. That ought to warm everything up real good. I'll report back then.



Wes,

Was the slop, in the new Cardone unit, apparent as pitman shaft slop, or is the unit sloppy inside. Perhaps a TSB 19-10-97 adjustment would help the new box.
 
Originally posted by wes reeves

Today I installed a new steering box and DSS. I used a Cardone rebuilt steering box from O'Reilly auto parts. I got the steering box and DSS in and went for a drive and had more play in the steering than I did before. I had my dad turn the steering wheel while I was under the truck to see if I could tell where the play was and it was all in the new (rebuilt) steering box. So I pulled everything back off and got another one. This one is quite a bit better, but still has about 1" of play in it at the steering wheel.



I would like to find a better steering box, but Cardone is the only brand any part store in town has in stock and I'll be working out of town for the next 3 weeks so I needed to get this done.



Has anyone else had trouble with new steering boxes? Also does anyone know how much the PSC boxes cost?



BTW- I'm satisfied with the DSS. It seems to be doing its job well.
Adjust the over-center adjustment. That should take the play out of the wheel.
 
I just wanted to report back and let you all know, I've been running my new steering gear for a couple of months without any problems. No more steering wander. My truck seems to drive like it did when it was new.



I think my old steering gear failed due to water contamination from engine washes. The old fluid was milky and clumpy. I found that the PS pump fill cap doesn't use a rubber gasket, therefore it doesn't seal water-tight. I now use a 1-1/2" Fernco Qwik Cap, with a clamp, on the PS pump fill neck in place of the fill cap during engine washes. Qwik Caps are available in the plumbing section at hardware stores.



Power steering fluid changes will now be part of my truck's maintenance schedule.

I found a good way to do a fluid change:

<HR>(1) Pull the return line from the coupler at the gear box (cut off the OEM clamp) and quickly attach a piece of 3/8 tooling hose to the coupler. Have the other end of the tooling hose in a drain pan and allow to drain. Position the loose end of the return line up high so that it doesn't drip all over everything.



(2) Raise the front of the truck until the front wheels are off the ground.



(3) With the engine <b><u>off</u></b>, turn the steering wheel lock-to-lock until all the old fluid is forced out of the system.



(4) Remove the PS pump fill cap and fill the reservoir with new fluid.



(5) Attach compressed air to the PS pump return line so that you can slightly pressurize the PS pump reservoir. I do this by sticking an air nozzle in the end of the return line. Pressurizing the reservoir will prime the pump and gear.



(6) Place your left hand over the fill hole then give the PS pump return line light shots of air. Be careful not to over pressurize which may blow seals in the pump. Use your left hand to help regulate how much you are pressurizing the reservoir. The system is primed when new fluid slowly comes out of the tooling hose.



(7) If you want, repeat steps 3 through 6 as many times as needed to flush the system.



(8) Remove the tooling hose and reattach the return line to the gear box coupler with a small worm-gear type clamp.



(9) Top-off the reservoir, run the pump with the engine on, then recheck the fluid level.



(10) Test drive and recheck the fluid level again.



(11) You're done!



Notes:

You shouldn't need to do the "PS pump initial operation" procedure (in the service manual) because you didn't generate foamy fluid and the system is already primed by step 6.

Don't worry about the hydraulic brake booster return system. It doesn't hold much fluid. I found that it returns a very small amount of fluid only when you let off of the brake pedal, otherwise it returns nothing.

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