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Where's the Lift Pump on the 3rd Gen

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Is the 3rd gen having engine knocking problems?

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Alan Reagan

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I'm still feeling my way around on my new truck. I looked for the lift pump today and couldn't find it. It looks as though the lines come directly from the tank to the filter. Is this my imagination or have they put the pump in the tank? Tell me that it ain't so.
 
Woman, get my gun!!! I don't know whether to shoot myself or the freakin' idiot that thought of that. In the past year I've had two pump failures on those in the tank systems. My Jeep (it's on it's third "lift" pump) and my wife's Murano (with a whopping 9,000 miles).



I had no idea those guys would up and do some stupid crap like that. I assumed it was tucked under and to the rear of the filter like my 01 was. I noticed this morning that I wasn't hearing it during the wait to start period.



I guess the tank will have to be dropped to replace the pump? That probably means that the fuel gauge and pump is replaced as a unit? Man, this really chaps my rear.
 
I am wondering too if the greater distance that the lift pump has to "push" fuel will create more fuel starvation problems? Especially for those wanting to up the power using a box...



I guess now that to increase fuel pressume/volume we will no longer use aftermarket "pusher" pumps but instead need "puller" pumps???? How's this going to work?
 
Many consider the move to an in-tank pump to be something very much desired and long overdue. The idea is that these pumps are much better pushers than pullers, and the very long distances over which the filter-housing pumps were mounted caused premature failure. It is the opinion of many 2nd gen owners that an in-tank pump would eliminate any lift pump problems on these trucks.



I suppose time will tell...



-Ryan
 
Does anyone have a fuel pressure gauge on one yet. I'd be willing to bet that the in-tank pump outperforms the old setup by a large margin.



Time will tell what the longevity difference will be. I believe the new setup is going to make widespread lift pump problems a thing of the past.
 
I just seem to have been bitten too many times in the past year by in the tank pumps. I could swap a lift pump out in 30 minutes and had a spare in my box. I'm curious to find out what all has to be purchased in addition to the pump. For instance is it a float, pump and return all in one?
 
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