Which FASS Pump to go with?

[JCockerill]

HD series or Titanium? and what flow 90 or 150gph? I plan on running turning up the tunning when i get rid of banks. and once i get the trans done i will be upgrading turbo. I want a supply pump that will be ready when the truck grows in the hp dept. what are you guys running? also do you run the fass supply direct into the cp3 or run it through the stock fitler housing for the heater? i'm in the northeast so cold is a factor. will running it through the stock housing limit flow?



thanks

 

[TCDiesel]

No keep the stock housing, Stack Banks with T-Dog. DO NOT USE fass filters... unless you are ONLY expecting to catch rocks in the fuel. Use Fass or Dog Pumps,Purchase Common filter Head and use aftermarket filters. Run lift pressure No higher then 15PSI (preferred 12 PSI) unless you mod the CV or Pump. Zinga is My choice of filter,Be prepared to spend $35. 00+ per filter Zinga Fuel Filter(s) AE-3AZL Aqa-Zorb. link to Zinga http://zinga.com/zImages/Zinga eighth page.pdf

 

[JCockerill]

thanks for the info. which model pump to use, titainum or hd? not a big fan of the banks product overall.

 

[TCDiesel]

HPFP Adjustable pressure Fuel (Fass) Or Raptor 100 (Air Dog) I don't recommend direct filtration,Independent or Bypass is the ultimate filtration.

 

[Mobius1]

Jcockerill,



I would go with a raptor 150gpm. It is a stand-alone pump, I have it going through the stock 7 micron filter housing, then a 2 micron GDP filter, easily hold 15psi. On really hard runs I can pull it to 0psi but you can adjust the psi to what you need

 

[JCockerill]

#ad
they say i need a fuel plate to hook fass supply into stock fitler housing. and if i retain stock housing i will have two return lines to tank. is this ok? do you really need to keep the heating element if you are in cold climates?

 

[TCDiesel]

Yes Keep the Factory housing, M1 you should NOT be able to Pull the PSI to 0, Your COV Must be Bad... .

 

[Mobius1]

Yes Keep the Factory housing, M1 you should NOT be able to Pull the PSI to 0, Your COV Must be Bad... .

I thought there might be a problem. However I am running a lot of fuel Smarty on level 4 tst is on an 03 twins program. BTW, what is a COV?

 

[Mobius1]

I don't have a problem with Cold weather. I add Diesel kleen to every tank and its been fine, no gelling

 

[JCockerill]

FASS says to run it direct to cp3, no need for stock housing? what gives. they say heater is not needed even in cold.

 

[TCDiesel]

They are mistaken or poorly informed. Or just don't care. . Great pumps worthless filters. All the damaged gear pumps are related to or have the same common denominator excessive pressure. It is Not Necessary to have any pressure exceeding 12 psi inlet. Now their is some performance gain to be found with added inlet pressure, the cost will be earlier failure $$$. They are telling you its NOT necessary B/C they are only concerned will Added HP,My Bank Account is enjoying the benefits of this type of support.

 

[Prairie Dog]

Do all the FASS pumps exceed 12 psi? I have the FASS 95 but only have about 35K miles on it. Should I run a regulator?

 

[MQuirin]

I thought there might be a problem. ... BTW, what is a COV?

Cascade overflow valve. It's on your CP3. It looks like a tall, black bolt head with a ball in the center. COV is about $35.

I suggest adding your own filtration, run your inlet pressure 10-12 psi, and use the factory canister/filter PF7977. ) You won't lose anything by using the stock filter, and you gain another filter, pretty good water separation, and the heater.

 

[BLoging]

hi
i am running a fass platinum 150 with the filter that come's with it from fass(donaldson) and i am running the line to inlet side of the factory filter system. I have been running it for about 3 month's now, going very good. living in wis. had a few mornings down in the mid. 20 and started good.

 

[TCDiesel]

Its the -0 temps and Bio-Diesel that will cause big Problems with the Fass or any NON heated systems. Example All commercial Filters and Pumps are NOW mounted on engine or behind cab, they are no longer frame mounted.

 

[subodh]

i just bought a fass 150gph but it is louder than 95gph (talking about hd series with filter) the 95 will suport 550-650 ive read and i supose it should be rwhp.

but we all know power will make you insane, so why dont be able to grow and go with a hd 150gph

 

[Mark Craig]

Why not use an Air Dog that have 165GPH and 2 micron filtration and removes the air out of the system from two air removal circuits vs just one like other brands do?? By passes the stock filter housing etc??



Mark

 

[TCDiesel]

The water separators will not get the emulsified water. . CR injection systems are spec's within 100,000s,if water sits in the chamber (XX amount of Days) it will rust causing the piston to jam bending the rod causing the hole to become dead.



You must run synthetic material thats encapsulates the water to catch. . Fass Airdog have GREAT pumps, don't rely on there filters or seperators. .

Direct feeding the CP3 and over pressuring is hard on the gears in the pump,The gears will rub against the backing plate and lockup busting the eccentric shaft. Reservoir feeding the pump helps the gear pump to operate safer. these rules do NOT apply for off road use,were you are looking to gain the Most HP,PULL,Times.

 

[nvken]

The water separators will not get the emulsified water. . CR injection systems are spec's within 100,000s,if water sits in the chamber (XX amount of Days) it will rust causing the piston to jam bending the rod causing the hole to become dead.



You must run synthetic material thats encapsulates the water to catch. . Fass Airdog have GREAT pumps, don't rely on there filters or seperators. .

Direct feeding the CP3 and over pressuring is hard on the gears in the pump,The gears will rub against the backing plate and lockup busting the eccentric shaft. Reservoir feeding the pump helps the gear pump to operate safer. these rules do NOT apply for off road use,were you are looking to gain the Most HP,PULL,Times.

TWest, what do you recommend for fuel pressure supplied to the CP3? On my truck, the Fass 150 is outputting 16 psi. The truck is used primarily for towing. The support tech at Fass said 16 to 17psi was fine and I would not need to lower the pressure.

 

[TCDiesel]

8-12 Psi anything over 15 is a little to Much,20+ will accelerate wear on the pump gears. I suppose if I wanted to save My lift Pump I would run higher pressure so the COV bleeds off more back to the tank,but eventually the COV will wear out then its going to be $$$ in repairs. .