Which warranty is the turbo covered under?

[EArp]

Is the turbo covered under the manufacturer standard 3yr/36k warranty or the 100k warranty by Cummins?



Thanks



Eric

 

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Cummins warranty

 

[dan.poitras]

Their is ABSOLUTELY no warranty from Cummins engine company. The engines were purchased by Daimler Chrysler from Cummins and they bear ALL warranty. The coverage you are asking about is the "engine " warranty by Chrysler.

 

[Adventure Bob]

Whichever one you dont have anymore...

 

[EArp]

So is it covered for 36k or 100k?

 

[HBarlow]

Their is ABSOLUTELY no warranty from Cummins engine company. The engines were purchased by Daimler Chrysler from Cummins and they bear ALL warranty. The coverage you are asking about is the "engine " warranty by Chrysler.

Do you know that with "ABSOLUTE" certainty? I've always heard that from fellow TDR members and always assumed it to be true but have never read anything official from Chrysler/Dodge or Cummins substantiating it.

That was not the arrangement between Ferd and Navistar for the Navistar diesel engines installed in Ferds. The poor reliability, high failure rate of the 6. 0 engine from hell, and disputes over warranty claims was reportedly a major reason for the dissolution of their business arrangement.

 

[HBarlow]

So is it covered for 36k or 100k?

I've never experienced a turbo failure or known anyone who has but I believe it is covered under the 5 yr/100k engine warranty. The owner's manual probably spells it out.

 

[EArp]

Sweet. Thanks for the info guys. I've been getting a louder/lower pitched whine from the turbo that gets louder the more you put your foot in it, and i'm pretty sure that's one of the symptoms that it may be going out. I don't have a boost gauge to tell whether i've lost any psi. As far as I can tell, I haven't noticed that i've lost any power. I'm gonna take it in to have it looked at next saturday just to be safe.

 

[jgillott]

Sweet. Thanks for the info guys. I've been getting a louder/lower pitched whine from the turbo that gets louder the more you put your foot in it, and i'm pretty sure that's one of the symptoms that it may be going out. I don't have a boost gauge to tell whether i've lost any psi. As far as I can tell, I haven't noticed that i've lost any power. I'm gonna take it in to have it looked at next saturday just to be safe.

Any other signs? Play in the shaft, oil residue etc?

 

[HBarlow]

Uhhhhh, do you think it's possible that a homemade air intake kit and missing silencer ring and intake baffles may have any effect on hearing more turbo bearing noise?

Are you going to be angry with your dealer and Chrysler/Dodge if they don't take your noise complaint serious due to the modifications?

Or worse, if the turbo is in fact exhibiting early signs of failure what if the dealer voids your warranty because of the modified air intake or missing parts?

 

[LudwigC]

I just replaced my turbo and transmission on an 04. 5 2500 srw with only 92k miles... It was covered under the extended warranty that I purchased with the certified/used vehicle... I'm not sure how it would covered under your situation though...



best $1395 + 100 deductible

 

[hearingyourlies]

Your CTD comes with a warranty book and in it is stated explicitly what is covered under the 100k mile engine warranty. Turbo and housing are almost definitely covered, as are injectors, ECM, lift pump, etc etc

 

[WMonroe]

Their is ABSOLUTELY no warranty from Cummins engine company. The engines were purchased by Daimler Chrysler from Cummins and they bear ALL warranty. The coverage you are asking about is the "engine " warranty by Chrysler.

When I toured the Cummins plant where the 5. 9 was built the tour leader told us that Cummins warranties the engines. He said if Chrysler covers something under warranty and Cummins determines it shouldn't have been covered (fueling box, etc. ) that then Chrysler is on the hook for the money spent. But he did say the Cummins reimburses Chrysler for all warranty work.

Will

 

[EArp]

I do realize that the mods I have would make the turbo louder, however, this is something i've noticed as of recently and is different from the sound i've been used to. I do not imagine that my turbo problems would be caused by the airbox mod or the silencer ring and baffles being removed. I am running a Fleetguard paper filter. However, I had to learn the hard way about oiled filters and was running an AFE PG-7 drop-in filter for about 30k miles when I discovered it had let what I would consider to be an excessive amount of dust through. Even though some of you guys suggested the amount that was pictured in one my other threads was not severe, I consider any dust getting by as unacceptable. I switched back to the paper filters as soon as I discovered it. I'm afraid now that the dust that the AFE let through could be causing the bearings to go out. As far as if the dealership covers, I'll have to cross my fingers and hope for the best.

 

[HBarlow]

When I toured the Cummins plant where the 5. 9 was built the tour leader told us that Cummins warranties the engines. He said if Chrysler covers something under warranty and Cummins determines it shouldn't have been covered (fueling box, etc. ) that then Chrysler is on the hook for the money spent. But he did say the Cummins reimburses Chrysler for all warranty work.
Will

That's what I have always figured was the real facts of the matter but I've never found it in writing or personally heard it from anyone close to the source.

It never made much sense to me that the engine manufacturer would have no responsibility for failures.

 

[HBarlow]

I do realize that the mods I have would make the turbo louder, however, this is something i've noticed as of recently and is different from the sound i've been used to. I do not imagine that my turbo problems would be caused by the airbox mod or the silencer ring and baffles being removed. I am running a Fleetguard paper filter. However, I had to learn the hard way about oiled filters and was running an AFE PG-7 drop-in filter for about 30k miles when I discovered it had let what I would consider to be an excessive amount of dust through. Even though some of you guys suggested the amount that was pictured in one my other threads was not severe, I consider any dust getting by as unacceptable. I switched back to the paper filters as soon as I discovered it. I'm afraid now that the dust that the AFE let through could be causing the bearings to go out. As far as if the dealership covers, I'll have to cross my fingers and hope for the best.

I don't believe that removal of the silencer ring and baffles would cause turbo failure either but what really matters is what the dealer tech and service manager may think.

Keep us posted how it turns out.

 

[JJPage]

Sweet. Thanks for the info guys. I've been getting a louder/lower pitched whine from the turbo that gets louder the more you put your foot in it, and i'm pretty sure that's one of the symptoms that it may be going out. I don't have a boost gauge to tell whether i've lost any psi. As far as I can tell, I haven't noticed that i've lost any power. I'm gonna take it in to have it looked at next saturday just to be safe.

Almost sounds more like a boost leak.



I had a hose clamp break, on the bottom of the boost hose on my intake horn, it screeched fairly loud and increased with load. I thought it was my turbo also, at first.



I built a plug with a shrader valve in it, to clamp over my turbo inlet, set my air compressor to 35psi and it was very easy to locate the source.

 

[JHardwick]

However, I had to learn the hard way about oiled filters and was running an AFE PG-7 drop-in filter for about 30k miles when I discovered it had let what I would consider to be an excessive amount of dust through. Even though some of you guys suggested the amount that was pictured in one my other threads was not severe, I consider any dust getting by as unacceptable. I switched back to the paper filters as soon as I discovered it. I'm afraid now that the dust that the AFE let through could be causing the bearings to go out.

I don't know about all of that. I ran my aFe for over 400,000 miles of the 500,000 miles on the OE turbo. I just recently threw it away and switched to paper, but only because it started looking ratty.