Who besides goodyear?

[draymorris]

Time for the 2nd round of new tires. Who is making them besides goodyear. The goodyears I have now are about 6 months old and started separating at the bead area. Unfortunately, I have almost worn them out.



Who else is making 235/80 R 17 load E?



Thanks for your help.

 

[KCJackson]

If you're looking for the factory dually size of LT235/80R17E, you have these choices:



- General AmeriTrac (all season)

- General AmeriTrac TR (on-off road)

- Cooper Discoverer HT (all season)

- Cooper Discoverer ST (all terrain)

 

[draymorris]

Thanks

The cooper dealer yesterday told me that they did not make them yet. Thanks to you, I found a different dealer. Thanks

 

[daytripper63]

How do the Cooper tires wear? I would like to get 40k out of a set of tires, seems like everytime I buy a off brand I only get 20k miles and am buying two sets of tires to go same distance one good set would have gone and no money saved.

 

[jsimpson]

Haven't had Cooppers in that size, but have used Coopers on a Buick and my 94 RAM 3500. Next to Michellin, I vote for Cooper. The ones on the Buick dry roted before they wore out!

 

[KCJackson]

I have had the following on my 96:

- OEM Goodyear Wrangler AT

- Cooper Discoverer LT

- Bridgestone M773

- Michelin LTX M/S Commercial

Michelins have been the best for mileage - they have over 40K on them right now, and the 4 rear tires could go at least another 30K. The Coopers were the "best cooked" tires - they needed almost no balancing weights. The Bridges were the most durable. The Goodyears stunk.



I do hope Michelin jumps on the 17" HD truck tire bandwagon (especially now that Ford is using 17s on the 05 Super Duty dually). If I could get the same LTX M/S Commercial tires in the LT235/80R17E size when my upcoming 05 Ram needs new sneakers, I'd pay whatever the store said.

 

[draymorris]

I bought the coopers

I purchased the Cooper Discoverer HT- this is a highway type tread. . $158. 00 each. Rated as 60k mile tire. Does ride better than the Goodyears. The Coopers are about . 75 inches narrower than the Goodyears at the tread. Your right about the balance - each tire took very little weight to balance.



About the Goodyears - I had 2 that I purchases in Feb, both bulging close to the bead. - the spare was the best from the original set on the truck which was purchased in Mar of 03. It was not bulging in Feb when we hung it as the spare, but bulged while under the truck since then. Of the 4 purchased in March of this year, one was bulging at the bead. This goodyear dist said only tires that are defective will be adjusted - I say adjust them all! I will never buy another Goodyear in my life - or a truck with them on it.



Now I have 6 new coopers and a Goodyear for the spare. When it bulges I will take it for adjustment.



Thanks to all.

 

[yogibear]

I talked to a Michelin rep. mon. , he said they will be out with the 235x80xr17 in Feb. 2005. It will be the LTX M/S, order # 53346. The reason he gave me that # was, I told him I bought my tires from Sams Club b/c they have a lot of stores across the USA, and are open 7 days a week, he said Sams may not stock these tires, but have them order that #.

I hope my goodyears last that long, I blew a right front last Sat. , 10:30 PM coming down Elk Mt. with 36' 5er, about 68mph, tire had 6,000 mi. , dlr. said it was rd. hazzard, cost me 199. 46 to get new one mounted. I'm on my 3rd set, with 176K mi. on trk.



Larry

 

[KCJackson]

I talked to a Michelin rep. mon. , he said they will be out with the 235x80xr17 in Feb. 2005. It will be the LTX M/S, order # 53346.

EXCELLENT news!! Thanks, Larry!

 

[Kirwin]

That is good news !!

Hurray!! Maybe all those emails from us TDR members didn't fall on deaf ears at Michelin! Ken Irwin

 

[yogibear]

I know your right Ken, the guy I talked to said they don't normally go into production on a new size like that till 3 or 4 yrs. after they are out, but they had such a call for them they got to it sooner. You know what they say, the gate that squeaks the loudest gets the grease first, or something like that!!



Larry

 

[FATCAT]

Cooper tires have always worked good for me. I have over 45K on my current set and will be purchasing them again.



Michelin ... well if you want to send your money to our enemy France ... go ahead. I wouldn't buy them if they were offered for $. 01 a piece.

 

[yogibear]

Well FATCAT, I see you have a VW, I don't think they are much differant than France, and a Kubota, I think we had a little dificulty with the Japs in WWII. I did quite eating french fries and they are made here, like the Michelin tires, so maybe that offsets me buying the Michelins, cause I used to really eat a lot of french fries. I now eat American fries.



Larry

 

[InThinAir]

My problem is not the who but the how much. I am guessin that the Michelins will be over $225 a piece. Since the Coopers are around that as well. They are gonna stick it to ya for this specialty size. These tires are no more expensive to make than a 245/75/16 E rated tire but they are twice as much!



So when it is time for new rubber I am going to 19. 5s which cost about the same, and since these goodyears are only gonna last 15K or so, I will be in the market real soon.



---Doug

 

[LBARTLETT]

I'm really happy to hear about the Cooper tires, I hate Goodyears as they take too much weight and don't wear well, I ran Michelin's on my 99', 01' and 02' but I didn't know they were a French Co. , I'll be switching to Coopers when my Goodyears are worn out, from what everyone has said above that won't be too long

 

[Kirwin]

Come on guys!

Michelin is a world wide company with there North American corporate headquartes in Greenville SC right next to the BMW plant. Guess what, Cummins is a world wide company too. The bracket that holds the high pressure fuel lines has "made in U. K" stamped right into it. I switched to American fries too but that doesn't make the entire country bad. I sometimes disagree with the leaders in this country. That's why I vote, and voice my opinion, but the best way to vote is with your wallet. That's the only thing that most politicians and companies understand anyway! All of the above IMHO. Ken Irwin

 

[bkaiser]

To continue with Ken's comments.....

Michelin is indeed a world wide company. How many of us have used Uniroyal or BF Goodrich tires? Michelin bought UniroyalGoodrich Tire Company in 1990. That's right -All those All Terrain T/As were engineered and made in the USA by a French company. As far as I know, there are only two 'full line' tire manufacturers based in the US - Goodyear and Cooper.



I won't get into whether or not anyone should buy from this country or that country. Personnally, I try very hard to buy stuff engineered and made in the US. My truck is the first vehicle I ever bought new that wasn't built here. I actually considered a Ford so I would have a US built truck, but the Cummins' mileage prevailed in the decision.

 

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[RAMN4EVR]

I really like my Goodyear Extragrip Workhorse tires.



http://www.goodyeartires.com/goodye...ine=Workhorse+Extra+Grip&mrktarea=Light+Truck.

 

[jsimpson]

The Uniroyals on my 94 are the worst tires I have ever owned. Thanks, Michellin! I believe I am correct in stating that Cooper is the last remaining U. S Tire Company - owned and made in the U. S. Add that to the fact that they make excellent tires, and it's reason enough for me to go with Cooper when the Michellins wear out on my wife's Tundra (soon) and the Goodyears wear out on my 03 3500.