2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Who has the most HP?

[SRossi]

Just wondering if anyone knows who has the biggest HP single turbo, #2 only truck as of right now (with proof)

 

[Stamey]

Dang, why you gotta put all those limitations on it?



Chris

 

[c-hawk]

Dang, why you gotta put all those limitations on it?



Chris

:-laf



My guess (and i don't know who else is out there) is Doug Smith (jetpilot). I think he did just under 600 on #2 only with a single charger.



I'm interested to see who has made what on singles.



Chris



EDIT: Just noticed this is in a 2nd gen forum, not 24v forum. I'm going to guess it's definitely one of the 12v pulling trucks from the midwest.

 

[Stamey]

So does this single-charger behemouth have to have decent EGTs too?

And Mr. Hawk, I hope someday to see your truck run in real life!



Chris

 

[SRossi]

Well, I meant 24V, but any will do. . Is 600 it? I know there has to be several trucks over the 600 hp mark, hell I even think Im passed that number. .

 

[KLockliear]

Back in 2001, our white 24v truck made 585 w/H2E hybrid on #2 only.

The blue 24v/p-pump truck made 601 with the same turbo also on #2 only.

JoeD's 12v made 799. 9 on #2 only.



Those are the strongest single turbo #2 only trucks I was aware of.

 

[JoshPeters]

Someone told me that the Haisleys are running a MASSIVE single on their trucks..... (could be wrong)



I'd think they would take this one...



Josh

 

[Reb.B]

I did 634 HP on #2 only in a common rail. I think Joe D. has the record with 799. 9 HP. Joe's truck is located 25 miles from me and can only put down 610HP now. Still not shabby though, lol.

 

[ToolManTimTaylor]

Is 600 it? .

Well ya DID ask #2 ONLY :-laf That is the "Wall" that many fuel only guys hit . . then ya grab a ladder in a bottle to get over it :-laf

 

[kelly4463]

My vote goes to (jetpilot) big HP truck :-laf :-laf

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

Don't blame poor old Sickly for being short on power these days. The new owner only wanted 600, so I retrofitted the 600 hp configuration onto the new engine. The 799. 9 was done over two years ago, and still hasn't been approached. Everyone else on this board with big numbers has had to use twins and/or drugs.

 

[SRossi]

Well ya DID ask #2 ONLY :-laf That is the "Wall" that many fuel only guys hit . . then ya grab a ladder in a bottle to get over it :-laf

But you see, thats what Im all about. . Any Joe Schmoe can make 600 hp with twins or N20, but you have to work at to do it with a single and no drugs. .

 

[ToolManTimTaylor]

Any Joe Schmoe can make 600 hp with twins or N20,. .

Ya see that is where you are wrong. It's NAWZ and that movie (The Not so fast and the really pi ssed about it) said so :-laf



Just bustin' em on ya

 

[Jim Fulmer]

Someone told me that the Haisleys are running a MASSIVE single on their trucks..... (could be wrong)



Ole' Kurt's truck is only making about a grand on #2... ... ... ... ... Either him or Brad Ingram.



Jim

 

[Reb.B]

Well i didn't think it wasn't that hard at all to make over 600 HP. The common rail does it much easier than a 12V. The whole reason is because of the ability of the common rail to spin a big turbo. At MM06 there was 3 people that were in the high 570's that didn't have hardly anything done and no problem driving the truck.

 

[SRossi]

MM06?? Did you travel back to the future. . Damn, with that flux capacitor on your truck, you must be making more the the 1. 21 jigawatts the DeLorean made, and you can run it on bio-diesel as well. . You must be in the 2. 72 turbowatt range to get that 7200 lb beast movin through time. .

 

[Devan Manis]

Well i didn't think it wasn't that hard at all to make over 600 HP. The common rail does it much easier than a 12V. The whole reason is because of the ability of the common rail to spin a big turbo. At MM06 there was 3 people that were in the high 570's that didn't have hardly anything done and no problem driving the truck.

How can a common rail spin a bigger turbo than a 12v?

 

[Reb.B]

Ever since I bought this 06 I think that it is 06 now. People are already talking about the 07 trucks and how they will be different, I don't know what year it is sometimes, lol.

The question about the common rail spinning a bigger turbo, (or any turbo) faster than a 12V is fairly simple to answer. The way I found out about it was when the B-1 quick spools were out and the TST's were out they actually stopped selling B-1's for a while because it didn't matter if you ran 40 psi boost or 60 psi boost they were still blowing. The reason why was because it was just excellerating too fast and just spinning right in half.

The common rail, depending on which year you have, shoots two and three shots of diesel per stroke. A preliminarry shot, a main shot, and an emmisions shot. Okay, when you have the prelim. shot you are getting the fire rolling and it makes it easier to get the main shot completely burned. A more efficient burn meens more expansion of gases, more exhaust pressure at lower RPM, and more lower end boost. Thats why in a 12V, if you crank up the aneroid, inj. , DV's so where it fuels way too hard on the bottom it seems like you lost your bottom end, ... . well you have! Too much fuel on the bottom meens you are drowning the fire out which meens less expansion of the gases.

Okay one more. The common rail 04. 5-pressent, has the third emmissions shot. This is why the later engines get such poor MPG. It shoots a shot right before the exhaust valve opens. This in my opinion adds to EGT and creates much more expansion of gases with the explosion coming out the exhaust. Now the Third shot I don't fully understand. Why this is, I don't know, I may be way off here, but I always heard that when a diesel runs at higher EGT's, it creates more oxides of Nitrogen. Why they made the truck run hotter and get less MPG is beyond me other than the reason to get the quicker spool up of the turbo. The newer trucks definatly smoke more, even stock trucks soot up the fenders.

So, what we need from the computer genious's now is an ECM mod that will shorten the first shot so we can run bigger boxes and bigger injectors so the truck doesn't rattle to death from too high timing, (bigger prelim. shot lots = more timing and pre-dettination) and a mod that gets rid of the third shot for driving MPG.

 

[Jim Fulmer]

Thats why in a 12V, if you crank up the aneroid, inj. , DV's so where it fuels way too hard on the bottom it seems like you lost your bottom end, ... . well you have! Too much fuel on the bottom means you are drowning the fire out which means less expansion of the gases.



Good explanation!



The above statement is correct in my eyes too! There are people that don't understand why I run a functional AFC with a tight AFC spring and 181 DV's..... it's simple, not too much fuel at the beginning and it will snap onto the Chargers, it makes 815 hp like this and drives on a day to day basis.



Jim

 

[Devan Manis]

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I had forgotten about the post injection shot.