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I am looking for a good alternator for my truck. I know there are some for Jeeps that produce over 200 amps and 80% of that is at idle. Does anyone make them for CTD? I do a lot of dry camping and use a winch and extra lights along with different accessories. I am also thing of going with the BP10000MJ Black Panther Batteries. Has anyone used them, are they worth almost $200 a piece for them? I need something dependable because I go places that I may not see anyone for days.



BTW I now have Les Schwab top of the line batteries in my truck. They are the sorriest batteries I have ever owned. Les Schwab even forgot to connect the + cable which grounded out on the alternator bracket and fried the radio lights. Then they have the nerve to tell me that they do not cover it because my truck has two batteries in it and "No car manufacturer puts two batteries in a vehicle" Both the manager and Mechanic told me that. They wont see me back ever.
 
I like the Red_Top Optima Gel-Cell Batteries. They have a long life. You can drain them and charge them back up a Zillion times.



Optima also says you can mount them upside down. ????



I don't know anybody that would mount them upside down, or even why you would want to, but who knows.



I guess If you rolled your Ram you could have peace of mind knowing that you battery is still good. :--)



As for alternators, I'm not sure about Dodge.

I use a 200 amp Leece Neville on my Chevy truck to power my Linear amplifier and it has never so much as whined or cried at the abuse I give it.



The downside is the cost and the fact that you have to make custom bracketry. :mad:



I know Powermaster makes aftermarket higher amperage Alternators, but they Too aren't cheap.



Drop me a PM if you need some info on where to get any of these items. I've spent countless hours scouring the web for these Items and would be glad to help.



Good luck,

Don
 
Originally posted by dbryant





The downside is the cost and the fact that you have to make custom bracketry. :mad:






Someone a short time back put a big alternator in w/o any custom work to speak of.

Run a search, it should come up.

What size amp you runnin anyway?:eek:

Eric
 
I found Wrangler NW Power Supply that makes a lot of high performance alt. And the good news is they are close by in Portland. I may go check them out next week. It would be nice to use the electric winch with the truck idleing with out such a big drain on the charging system.
 
One thing to keep in mind about your trucks is how low the RPMS are. I am still looking for a good alternator to replace my stock POS with. . but most of the alternators that I have found WILL NOT work on our trucks.



Take in account that the average vehicle revs to about 6000 RPMS and our trucks only rev to about half of that.



The only alternator that I have found that even seems worth anything is Hehr Power Systems Series 24.



I've talked to these guys several times and they seem very nice. The flat out told me that they don't have a mounting bracket for our trucks, but they were more then willing to give me all the part numbers and prices for what I will need. They also have the cabability to change the pulley size to make sure their alternators give out the right power output for our trucks.



Kev
 
Mean Green should have one available. The Dodge alt's aren't much different (if at all) from Jeep alternators so it should pretty much bolt right in.
 
If the out put at idle is an issue you might want to check out, Practical Solutions Diesel Products Adjustable High Idler.



It is for the 24 valve trucks. You can adjust your idle up to about 1500 rpm with it. Its not cheep but it plugs into the factory harness and works great.



It might be easier than fabricating brackets and such.



It is mentioned in several threads if you do a search you can find some more info.



Craig
 
Re: Re: Who makes high amp alt.

Originally posted by Kilby

Mean Green should have one available. The Dodge alt's aren't much different (if at all) from Jeep alternators so it should pretty much bolt right in.



Thanks, Brad. :D



Per Mean Green:

200 amp unit that fits stock brackets. Price is 369. 00 Thanks.



Bryan
 
It's was I who was fabricating brackets and installing larger alternators for our Ram's. I haven't been around much due to business and family matters (5 kids !! and a full time auto business),but I was emailed by another member about this post,so I just dropped in to offer some advice.



We have very high electrical requirements on our trucks (plow and service trucks) and was going through batteries and alt's like crazy. I ended up trying several different styles and sizes of alternators and batteries,and finally found one that worked very well,and was very cost effective.



First of all lets go over the different styles of alternators available to us,and what purpose they are suited for.



1-stock,a decent unit which will usually last for a while under normal use. Not very good for corrosive or wet use (ie salt and water),and requires a fair amount of engine speed to create good output,usually around 75-90 amps,but no where near the rated 136 amp rating.



2-modified stock,usually "souped up" by a rebuilder with larger rotor and stator windings. Will put out a little more amps at high RPM,but same as stock at low speeds. They usually don't last long as the extra amperage usually creates more heat,which the stock case is to small to dissipate. It will also usually kill the stock rectifier assy in short order.



3-redesigned stock,usually made by aftermarket companies with better components,but still in a stock case. A step up from above,but still suffer with heat and durabilty problems due to small stock case being used.



4-large frame (case) alternators,by utilizing a larger case,ALL the components are larger and built better to deal with the heat created by more amperage. They have much better low speed output,as most are made to be used on a low speed diesel,and much higher amperage ratings. Most of these style alt's are used on the larger diesels used in tractor's,buses,etc,so they are meant for the long haul,and will withstand the extra vibration. Some of the aftermarket stuff,like the Hehr units are based on these style alternators,but are very expensive. By using a "stock" large frame alternator,you get the high output,at a reasonable cost. Most truck shops have a fair number of these on the shelf,both new and rebuilt,very cheap.



I used a Leece-Neville 140 amp unit which uses a standard J180 "ear" type mount. With a few spacers,a longer bolt,and a bracket extension,it's a direct bolt on. A longer belt is also required. This is a brand new unit and my cost was $230. 00 Canadian. Odd parts to install (pulley,belt,etc) was less than a $100. 00 Canadian. I now have a unit which puts out almost 100 amps at base idle,and WELL OVER 140 amps at cruise. The alt tested much higher on the test bench. It solved all my charging system problems. I was actually looking for a higher amp unit,but this one puts out plenty,for a great price. It also runs very cool,and I have seen these alt's go many many years on larger OTR trucks. You will have to upgrade the charge wire (from alt to batt),as well as the alt fuse,as it will blow the stock 120 amp fuse in short order. I also don't have as much of a problem with the grid heaters pulling down the voltage and dimming the headlamps.



More info on these alternators at www.prestolite.com



Regarding batteries,I use two group 31 batteries (used on diesel trucks and tractors) from Interstate. Brand is not as important as size and reserve capacity. They will require a little "massaging" of the battery trays,but they do bolt in. The are rated for 950 CCA,1370 HCA,and have a reserve capacity of 200 mins each !!. Stock is only 750 CCA,and 90 min reserve I think. These things are also very well built to deal with excessive vibration. We were lucky to get a year out of the stock size batteries,but these have been going strong for over 3 years. They would work great for winching as they have a huge reserve. I used to run separate batteries,with an isolator,so I wouldn't get stranded when I ran down the batteries. These are almost impossible to run down.

Will run the stereo,strobes,and all my lights all day,and start the truck like nothing happened. I no longer need the isolator and extra batteries. It also takes the load off the alt some during high amperage draws (ie winching),as the batteries can keep up longer.



Sorry about the rant,just passing along all the info I have learned in my quest to build the perfect truck,or charging system at least. Don't throw away your money. You could probably do this upgrade for $200. 00 US.



Here is a link to my previous thread for more info. Hope it still works. It has all the info and pics. https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34554



I have been away from here for a while but will try and follow this thread if anyone wants more info on how to do this. Hope it helps someone.



Chris



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